Re: Ken Stryker's Beacon Guide
Posted by Bob on January 01, 2003 at 10:52:38
Thanks... both nice tips. I'm a DBMS programmer myself so this looks very interesting!
ba and bob qso
Posted by bob hoffswell on January 02, 2003 at 00:17:36
Howdy and Happy 03 de BOB
Brice, BA, and I had our traditional LF QSO at about 10AM New Years day. BA was 549 and BOB 559 over the ~150 mi path. We also had SKN QSO's on 160, 80, 40, 30, and 20m that morning, using about 50 w. each, and 40m seemed about the best connection, dispite a lot of SKN activity and QRM. near the end of that band-jumping, we returned to 40m using about a watt each. W9PNE/BA was 579 and AA9DH/BOB was 549. All in all, LF was very good and we could have just stayed there! Unfortunatly, LF activity from the old CW beacons hasn't been very good this season and both BA and I miss hearing TH, YHO, LEK, XJ, and the old group.
73 to all and to all a good night...
Re: "Ultrasound Receiver"
Posted by harshad deshmukh on January 02, 2003 at 04:18:42
sir/madam,
we are the students of Govt. college of engg. pune. we are doing project titled "ultrasonic blind person's navigator".
we want circuit for ultrasonic transreciever. kindly help us in this regard. we shall be grateful to you.
AM broadcast
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 03, 2003 at 07:43:16
Aside from the large group around 185.3 last nite,the AM stations on 152,162,173 and 183(all approx.) were coming in with nice comfortable listening levels last evening hr in Maryland.Will look at Dex's plot on HBG to see if any correlation..???
de Lloyd W3NF
Six on 185.3 tonite
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 03, 2003 at 23:03:11
Ran Argo on slow speed and got the crowd on 185.3 ..top to bottom--LEK(Mthell),TMO,WA,NC,TAG and USA hr in Maryland FM19MH.
www.geocities.com/lacwman/185.3jan03.jpg
de Lloyd W3NF
Best settings for maximum sensitivity
Posted by Friedrich on January 04, 2003 at 13:41:42
If I receive VLF with a given aerial and a given soundcard with my PC using a given analysis software, there are many possible settings (wide frequency range - small frequency range, hight time resolution low time resolution), which is the best when I want to receive signals from a known frequency.
Is a small frequency range or a wide frequency range better for receiving weak signals?
Shall I use for receiving weak signals a low or a high time resolution?
New Medfer PBJ now on the air from central NC
Posted by Chris Waldrup on January 04, 2003 at 15:06:59
I put my new medfer station on the air late last night on 1687.7 khz. Right now I'm running 0.2 WPM with the ID "PBJ", same as my hifer beacon on 13.55787 Mhz. Any reception reports would be appreciated.
Chris
Sawtooth"double"
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 04, 2003 at 21:52:31
is this a double sawtooth or reflection:)--getting some strange ones on 185.3
http://www.geocities.com/lacwman/185.3jan04.jpg
is TAG creating a sawtooth???
de Lloyd W3NF
Influences of a war in Iraq on VLF transmission activity
Posted by Klaus on January 05, 2003 at 02:26:38
How would a war in Iraq affect the activity of VLF transmissions. Would the transmission activity increase, decrease or stay at the same level?
Are interesting signal forms or exotic transmission modes to expect?
Re: New Medfer PBJ now on the air from central NC
Posted by Paul Stroud on January 05, 2003 at 19:08:37
Medfer PBJ is showing nice Spectran traces, with RST around 549 at my QTH, about 6 miles east of PBJ's location--(approx 12 mi SW of Raleigh, NC.)
Chris gave me a tour of his medfer beacon this afternoon-a FB setup. I'm sure he would appreciate any additional reports.
Goood show, PBJ!
Sawtooth clue??
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 05, 2003 at 22:25:07
This suddenly appeared-looks like someones xmtr went beserk or could it be a clue to the sawtooth???
http://www.geocities.com/lacwman/jan05185.3.jpg
de Lloyd W3NF
LowFer YK has gone loopy
Posted by Chris Lantaff on January 06, 2003 at 18:22:47
LowFer Beacon YK is now back on the air. Freq is ~185.97 the antenna is a 130 ft Ashlock loop. The id is YK at .02 wpm.
Also copied lowfer beacon BA while tuning the loop up on a receiver. I know there is a lot of room for improvement, but it seems to be working.
Chris, KE9YK http://members.sigecom.net/clantaff/
http://www.qsl.net/ke9yk/lowfer/
LowFER RAD
Posted by Tim Pauly on January 06, 2003 at 18:27:30
Beacon RAD, 187.600, will be back on the air this week after being off the air for over a year.
The beacon is located in Radford City, Virginia.
Thanks,
Tim Pauly N2GFT
What transmission power do VLF transmitters really use
Posted by Harald Lutz on January 06, 2003 at 18:35:40
Yesterday I was able to receive GBZ extremely strong (look on the spectrogramme below), stronger then ever before.
Because there seems to be only less fading in the VLF range and even during daytime, when there is no fading in the longwave range at all, the signal strengths of some VLF transmitters sometimes change in their intensity, I suppose the stations often change their radiation power.
Why do they often change their power?
Have they often different areas to supply?
Are they only used by the Navy to send messages to submarines or also used by other military or non-military offices?
Why does GBZ somtimes transmits extremely strong pulses?
Yours sincerely,
Harald Lutz
3GOATS Beacon
Posted by Fred Lord on January 06, 2003 at 18:38:47
Hi,
The goats and I have moved.
The beacon is waiting for a new antenna and has relocated to Phoenix, Oregon. I should have the beacon running by the first week of the new year.
Thanks
Fred Lord
Re: ZL6QH Test
Posted by Michael Silvers on January 06, 2003 at 18:48:04
Date: 12/29/02 4:01:41 PM Eastern Standard Time
Season's Greetings,
Mo' pix of ZL6QH agn ... in 120", fast mode:
http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900002.jpg http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900003.jpg http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900004.jpg http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900005.jpg http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900006.jpg http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900007.jpg http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900008.jpg http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900009.jpg http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/zl6qh02122900010.jpg
Happy Holidays de Mike KB6WFC Daly City, CA USA CM87sq 37:40:26N 122:28:32W RX: HP3586B (20Hz filter mode) & WWVB calibrated Argo V1_131!!
ANT: AA7U Steve Ratzlaff active (8' LORAN-C) whip, base @ 16'
http://www.geocities.com/silversmj/kb6wfcwebsite.html
TAG in WOLF Mode
Posted by John Andrews on January 06, 2003 at 19:40:28
TAG will be running in WOLF mode for a few nights on 185.800 kHz.
John Andrews, W1TAG TAG Status: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/
TAG Monday Wolf
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 06, 2003 at 22:06:57
here is a TAG wolf copy hr in Maryland tonite..
www.geocities.com/lacwman/tag106.txt de Lloyd W3NF
www.vlf.it update
Posted by Renato Romero, IK1QFK on January 07, 2003 at 08:09:10
A new update of VLF OpenLab is on line:
What and Where is the Natural Noise Floor? By John Meloy
73, Renato Romero
NWS - North Warning System
Posted by Michael Oexner on January 08, 2003 at 11:43:53
Hi all,
has anybody ever logged NDBs associated with the North Warning System? Are they still supposed to be active?
A short quote from a message on the NDBLIST mailing list:
>>> begin quote >> end quote <<<
Some interesting links:
Start page: http://www.lswilson.ca/dewline.htm
NWS: http://www.lswilson.ca/page4.htm
DEW Line Beacons: http://www.lswilson.ca/navaids.htm
A few of the DEW line beacons are still operational as "normal" NDBs these days, aren't they? Maybe using different equipment now...
From the notes section of the last link:
--------- begin quote -------------
NOTES:
(1) LF BEACON EQUIPMENT: FRT-37 all sites except Sondrestrom, DYE-2, DYE-3 and CAM-M. See notes 11 & 12
(4) HF A/G RADIO: 3023.5 KC (Receive only) all sites. Sites receiving call on this frequency will transmit on LF Beacon (DEWLine only). CAM M will use UHF or VHF frequency for reply.
--------- end quote -------------
vy 73 + gd DX,
Michael
Re: NWS - North Warning System
Posted by Michael Oexner on January 08, 2003 at 11:46:47
Oops,
somehow the list of NWS NDBs didn't come through. I'll try again:
NORTH WARNING SYSTEM BEACONS
North Warning System Beacons have been established for the Department of National Defense use but may be used by the public when available and if necessary for navigational purposes. The beacons are uncertified,
unmonitored and outages are not covered by NOTAM. The beacons are radio activated with a single key of the mike on 131.15 MHz providing approx.
20 minutes of service. NWS beacons operate at 125 Watts power output.
Location Indicator Freq N(LAT) W(LONG) Elev
kHz ASL
Bernard Harbour XAJ 251 6845.18 11456.23 302 Big Bay XBI 385 5544.20 06025.48 1008 Bray Island XBA 210 6913.26 07713.51 146 Broughton Island XAP 224 6732.08 06347.19 1969 Cape McLoughlin XAV 330 6839.52 08535.32 1343 Cape Peel West XAL 228 6902.08 10749.23 634 Croker River XAH 228 6915.31 11913.11 316 Edinburgh Island XAK 218 6829.08 11051.55 736 Gladman Point ZZC 375 6840.48 09748.38 171 Harding River XAI 266 6850.06 11657.58 383 Hat Island XAO 210 6819.04 10004.10 208 Jenny Lind Island ZZD 255 6844.57 10151.08 351 Keats Point XAG 218 6940.21 12140.19 1174 Komakuk Beach ZZE 215 6935.42 14010.47 130 Lailor River XAX 222 6906.38 03832.26 1188 Liverpool Bay XAD 222 6936.15 13053.35 424 Longstaff Bluff ZZA 300 6853.54 07508.27 616 Nadluardjuk Lake XAE 221 6837.11 07312.40 546 Nicholson Peninsula ZZF 284 6955.28 12858.26 384 Rowley Island XAZ 266 6904.02 07903.53 224 Stokes Point XAA 266 6919.48 13844.11 201 Storm Hills XAB 243 6853.39 13356.31 954 Sturt Point North XAM 385 6857.47 10345.32 441
Re: NWS - North Warning System
Posted by Webmaster on January 08, 2003 at 20:21:03
Thanks for checking your message and posting the followup, Michael.
A reminder to all users of the message board: the board software rejects any text between a < character and a > character. This is a security feature to reduce the risk of someone using HTML code to slip a nasty surprise into a message that might be injurious to a reader's computer.
John Davis
Beacon RAD Update
Posted by Tim Pauly on January 08, 2003 at 21:53:12
High winds this week destroyed my new Lowfer antenna. I must admit I'm a little frustrated with it because I have had the beacon for nearly two year, about 5 months of that time actually on the air, and no one has logged it yet... I'm sure it's because I just don't really have an ideal location without trees, and a good ground plane as so many of you seem to have. I also don't have a whole lot of time, with a house full of kids plus working long hours. I am happy with my transmitter, which is completely home brew using a 6.000 mHz crystal and a 74HCT4020 BRC chip, plus Lyle Kohler's most excellent push-pull amplifier circuit. Someday I'll have a bigger place, outside of the city, and I'll put up a really good LowFer antenna to match that transmitter...
Beaconing is something I've wanted to do for a long time. So I am switching my efforts (for now), to the HiFer band, and when I get more time, the MedFer band. I've been hearing a lot of NDB's here in VA, nearly as many as we heard in NY. I have yet to actually log a LowFer here but it's pretty noisy where we are, which probably accounts for a lot.
I just ordered two SG8002 oscillators, one for 13.5610 and another for 1.7025. I'm going to try my hand at these two bands, starting with the HiFer.
Although the new digital modes are fascinating, I prefer CW. My beacons will probably always ID in CW, possibly alternating between slow CW and 10 WPM. I just am of the personal opinion that if you can't hear it, you ain't really pickin' it up (wink wink).
So, I'll let you all know when I get these transmitters on the air. I know it's not VLF, but it's still fun stuff...
Thanks for the support of members on this site, and thanks for letting me ramble...
Tim Pauly N2GFT Beacon "RAD"
Re: Beacon RAD Update
Posted by John Davis on January 09, 2003 at 00:48:36
:: High winds this week destroyed my new Lowfer antenna. I must admit I'm a little frustrated with it because I have had the beacon for nearly two year, about 5 months of that time actually on the air, and no one has logged it yet... I'm sure it's because I just don't really have an ideal location without trees, and a good ground plane as so many of you seem to have. ::
Awfully sorry to hear about the damaged antenna, Tim, especially as we just now knew to be listening for you. I'd be inclined to think a lot of the non-loggings had to do with most of us being unaware that you were on during that time.
These days, I suspect there are few monitors left who scan the 1750m band randomly for beacons. The rise of very narrow modes means people are more inclined to target a relatively small frequency range in any given session, and to wait there for hours (if necessary) for expected signals to materialize. That is to say, they tend to target segments where the listings indicate someone is likely to be transmitting.
Do let us know as soon as you have the MedFER and the HiFER on the air, so we can get you listed again. Given the results obtained on HF this year, I would bet you'll have no trouble raising some reception reports on one or both of these bands. And, we'll look forward to the time when you eventually get back to LF too.
73,
John
Re: Beacon RAD Update
Posted by Tony Levstik on January 09, 2003 at 09:36:38
Tim
When you put your Hifer beacon on the air I highly recommend using Both QRSS3 and 10wpm CW.
The beacons I have picked up using only CW tend to have VERY short limited reception times.
I find using one of the Slow CW receiving programs like "ARGO" to "See" the signals I can
tell if the band is becoming active. So far all of the signals I have copied were "Seen" first then "Heard".
Tony Levstik levstik1@worldnet.att.net TLTX
Arnold Kessler, Where Are You?
Posted by Webmaster on January 09, 2003 at 12:10:59
Anyone know how to contact Arnie, who posted some messages relating to commercial MF sorta-Part 15 transmitters back in December? I've been trying to contact him with some questions about one particular posting, but the host name he gave as part of his e-mail address cannot be found by the Internet name servers. To wit:
If he will contact me directly and we can resolve the questions, I'd like to be able to post his other message to the board. Thanks. John Davis webmaster@lwca.org
LW Radio from IOM giev the go ahead
From http://www.longwaveradio.com/News.html The High Court has dismissed the Petition of Doleance being brought by the Bride Commissioners against the Department of Transport objecting to its award of a Siting Licence for the long wave transmission facility in Ramsey Bay. Bride Commissioners had raised seven objections to the licence, most of which were dramatically withdrawn halfway through the court hearing. They claimed that they ought to have been consulted as the platform will be only four kilometres from their coastline. In court however, it was pointed out that an extensive Environmental Impact Assessment showed that there would be no effect on the parish other than minor distant views of the installation. Suggestions of a risk from pollution had been proven unfounded by a study conducted by leading oil industry experts. The Commissioners had sought a quashing order; however, the Acting Deemster, Jeremy Storey QC, had agreed that such an action was not a matter for the Court - it could only decide whether the process of licensing was right and, if appropriate, order the Department to reconsider the award. Finding that the Commissioners' legal rights had not been improperly infringed or impaired and that they could not satisfy an important legal test of being a party aggrieved, the Acting Deemster dismissed the Petition. "It is good news for Ramsey and excellent news for the Isle of Man," said Paul Rusling, the project's founder. "We can at last get on with building the facility and get the radio station on the air, hopefully during the Summer. Its coverage of the entire British Isles, and beyond, will put the Island firmly on the map and enhance its international profile." 9 January 2003
Re: New Medfer PBJ now on the air from central NC
Hi Chris: 73 Mitch VE3OT
VLF Antennae
How can I build a VLF antenna to transmit radiowaves?
TAG WOLF tonite
Just thought I'd take a look to see if TAG was coming through on WOLF and here is the copy tonite www.geocities.com/lacwman/jan10.txt de Lloyd W3NF
Beacon "D" Temporary Status
Hi from Des Moines in Iowa! My faithful olde keyer has ceased its operation so for a few days I'll just be running alternate on and off for an "Id" just to keep on the air. Also - please kind of ignore this E-mail address (omitted above). I'm on an olde computer out here in the garage room where the beacons are located! k0htf@arrl.org is fine and that forwards to donnatom@netins.net 73, Doc.
Unidentified transmitter on 19.2 kHz in MSK-mode active!
Since December 21st, 2002 I can receive at my reception site in Germany at 48N 43 and 8E 58 a transmitter working in the MSK-mode on 19.2 kHz. According to http://www.vlf.it/trond2/15-20khz.html there are two stations mentioned on 19.2 KHz VTX4 in India and SOA50 in Poland. But both stations are inactive according http://www.vlf.it/trond2/15-20khz.html !
Re: LW Radio from IOM given the go ahead
More on this story from Caroline Central at www.carolinecentral.com. 2003 is set to be the year of MusicMann 279, the working title of the Long Wave radio station set to give complete coverage to the UK and Ireland. The final hurdle has been overcome, and a Summer launch is now being planned. MusicMann 279 will broadcast from a sea platform anchored four kilometres away from the Island, using a specially constructed aerial system. Programmes have not yet been revealed but a number of well-known names have been drawn in to help put them together. The project was first mooted over ten years ago, and during the last five years Paul Rusling, the main driving force, has faced a constant battle to keep it on track. Rusling, famous in anorak circles for his book 'The Lid Off Laser', and his appearances on the 1970s Radio Caroline, feared that the whole project might be destroyed when an objection was made to the final site-plans for the floating aerial platform. However, the High Court dismissed the objection, which leaves the station free to come on air as soon as it is ready. "It is good news for Ramsey and excellent news for the Isle of Man," said Paul Rusling. "We can at last get on with building the facility and get the radio station on the air. Its coverage of the entire British Isles, and beyond, will put the Island firmly on the map and enhance its international profile."
How good would it work as aerial for 9 kHz?
How good would the "dead" powerline described on http://www.lostplaces.de/harald-deadline/index.html (in German language) work as aerial for 9 kHz?
Tag keeps going and going!!!!
That Wolf mode sure works nice -at least from TAG www.geocities.com/lacwman/tag3.txt tonite in Maryland.
W1TAG de W3NF
Conditions seemed to have degraded since the last try but got this much HI!!! www.geocities.com/lacwman/tag4.txt Tried an additional copy but guess noise was up and didnot get any copy..
Re: Beacon RAD Update
Thanks guys, My SG-8002's should be here by Wednesday. They were back-ordered. I'll keep you posted as to when RAD is back on the air on the new frequencies. Thanks again, Tim
Re: How good would it work as aerial for 9 kHz?
The powerline by itself might not make a very good conventional aerial. It is long enough and has enough capacitance to act as a tophat element, but it is not high enough above ground to produce appreciable vertically polarized radiation. However, it could be used effectively as the above-surface feeder portion of an earthed loop antenna. It would be even more effective if connected to earth through deep wells at each end, somewhat like the US Navy station at Clam Lake or the Russian ZEVS system. The article by DK8KW, cited in your Lost Places page, contains a section on the geometry of earth antennas at: I imagine it could span reasonable distances for amateur purposes if the authorities would allow several kilowatts of power. John
Re: Why not to install a 8.9 kHz beacon at Koenigswusterhausen (Germany)
Good question, Udo. If a person wants to attempt VLF transmission from a vertical antenna, a mast this tall or taller would be highly desirable. Even so, 240m is only 0.007 wavelength at 8.8kHz. It will not be an easy task, even with a structure this tall. There are too many variables to give an accurate prediction of distance, such as what modes might be used or how good the receiving systems might be. Just as it is difficult to transmit at VLF frequencies, it is also a challenge to receive enough signal to be usable. My best guess is that the coverage range would be somewhat less than American Part 15 LowFER stations. The antenna is comparably small (0.0085 wavelength at 1750m, versus 0.007 at 34.1km), while I believe receive antenna differences might be compensated to a large extent by the 100W power. Noise levels will be significantly worse at 8.8kHz, though. Just to provide some VERY approximate numbers: On a good day, 100 to 200km might be possible sometimes on CW, with several hundred kilometers possible using slow, narrowband modes. In other words, I suspect distances would be about half those encountered by US LowFERs for a given transmission mode, and such distances would be possible less than half as often as they are at 1750m. Reality might prove to be better than this guess, or it might prove to be worse. It would be a most interesting experiment, though. John
On how many VLF-frequencies can be transmitted at the same time?
Sometimes two or more AM-broadcasting transmitters uses the same transmitting aerial. This is very sensitive, because a second tower is more expensive then the necessary frequency filters which are needed to run more then one transmitter on the same aerial.
185.3-not 7 but 6
looks like conditions a bit better this morning-only got 6 on this capture www.geocities.com/lacwman/jan12.jpg hr in Maryland..
Re: LW Radio from IOM given the go ahead
Some more detail: The licence allows the building of a platform at sea, housing a 500kW Longwave transmitter!! Its a very ambitious project, good luck!! Mike
136 kHz Party Tonight
Starting around 2200 UTC (12 January), a number of European stations will be transmitting in QRSS or DFCW mode around 135.922 kHz. We have defined the window as 135920.5 to 135923.5, expecting to use Argo 60 or 90 second screens for receiving. Dex and I will be posting screen captures, and all others are welcome to try receiving the signals (you can send reports to the RSGB LF reflector. As of this writing, the following stations have signed up to transmit: John Andrews, W1TAG
RB Copied
From Robert Blicking: Peter, EN51
Re: LW Radio from IOM given the go ahead
Yes, it's good news. Just hope they don't get on air only to find the signal on 279khz from the CFA is only reaching out 50 miles and they end up being the worlds only 500kw local station!! Paul Strickland Lancashire, UK
Re: RB Copied
let me know your address and I'll send a QSL.
A nice, simple little Part 15 MedFER transmitter
Yo Folks, I have found a cheap *and* good Part 15 MedFER transmitter. I've been corresponding with Charles Wenzel charles@wenzel.com , the President of Wenzel Associates, Inc. http://www.wenzel.com/ . He has designed a simple, stable Part 15 AM transmitter: www.techlib.com/electronics/amxmit.htm It is frequency-stable and has excellent audio fidelity. It does require assembly, but it uses a small number of parts. It can be built on a 4" X 4" perfboard that you can get at Radio Shack. The components are available from Radio Shack and from Mouser Electronics: http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?handler=home The total parts cost is only $15 - $20, but this crystal-controlled transmitter sounds as good as a $400+ Talking House or Talking Sign transmitter! Also, Charles Wenzel has surplus 1000 kHz Bliley crystals available very cheap. I hope this information will be helpful. *JimJ*
Re: A nice, simple little Part 15 MedFER transmitter
Jim I tried to send you a picture of my Wenzel setup but your email address does not work. 73 Jim
Re: LW Radio from IOM given the go ahead
From http://www.iomonline.co.im/newsstory.asp?storyid=19186&arc=True THE controversial long-wave radio station could be on air by summer according to boss Paul Rusling. The announcement came after the High Court threw out a petition from Bride Commissioners challenging the Department of Transport's decision to allow Isle of Man International Broadcasting to site a transmitter in Ramsey bay. IMIB plans to operate from Ramsey, using the transmitter in the bay to broadcast across Britain and into Europe. The project has been plagued by objections which forced the company to abandon plans to site its transmitter in Cranstal, Bride, and instead look at plans to build it at sea, four kilometres off the coast. The idea was given the go-ahead by the DoT's territorial sea committee, but that prompted a petition of doleance against the department from the commissioners. After lengthy legal argument, which saw a number of the commissioners' original allegations dropped or withdrawn, including alleging then Transport Minister Tony Brown was guilty of 'administrative bias', Acting Deemster Jeremy Storey dismissed the petition last week. In his judgment, delivered on Thursday, the acting deemster said the points he had to determine were whether the commissioners had a legitimate expectation they would be consulted about the proposal, whether, in the absence of consultation, the minister failed to take into account matters he should have and whether the lack of consultation was unfair or a breach of the rules of natural justice. Acting Deemster Storey said his job was not to review the DoT's decision, but the process which led to that decision. He said the commissioners' only grounds for asserting a legitimate expectation to be consulted on the sea-based platform plan was that they had been consulted on IMIB's proposals to build at Cranstal. However, he said: 'I do not accept that the commissioners had any legitimate expectation to be consulted. There had been no representation or promise to consult by the DoT.' He added there is no promise or established practice to consult with a local authority more than four kilometres away from the site. Acting Deemster Storey dismissed claims the minister had failed to take relevant matters into account, pointing out he only had to consider whether the platform would cause 'obstruction or danger to navigation'. Allegations lack of consultation led to procedural impropriety were also dismissed. Acting Deemster Storey said the DoT had no duty to consult with the commissioners. 'The DoT's only relevant responsibilities were to protect the Island's territorial waters and the safety of shipping,' he said. After finding in favour of the department in each of the three issues the acting deemster said he was not required to say whether, if he had found in favour of the commissioners on any point, he would have quashed the decision to give IMIB the go-ahead. However, he added: 'In all the circumstances I would not have quashed the minister's decision. I am satisfied that, even if the commissioners had been consulted, the decision to grant the application could still reasonably have been made.' Following the ruling IMIB chief executive Mr Rusling said: 'It's good news for Ramsey and good news for the Island. 'We can at last get on with building the facility and get the radio station on the air, hopefully during the Summer. 'This will be a relatively modest facility, of modern design and visible only as a tiny insignificant blip on the horizon. The largest effect will be that the coverage of the entire British Isles and further will put the Island firmly on the map and enhance its international profile.' Bride Commissioners chairman David Guest declined to comment on the ruling until it has been considered by the board, which is due to meet tomorrorrow (Tuesday). 13/01/2003 11:39:25
HiFer RAD on the air.
Beacon RAD is now on the air on 13.5610 mHz. (or thereabouts!) using a SG-8002 programmable oscillator. It's a bit chirpy, so I'll modify it at some point in the near future to key a PA stage instead of keying the SG-8002 chip itself. My frequency measurements are a bit unstable, but it seems to be pretty dang close to 13.5610. It currently ID's as "RAD RAD RAD RAD RAD RADFORD VA" twice, then "RAD RAD" in slow CW before cycling again. Tim
HiFer RAD on the air.
Beacon RAD is now on the air on 13.5610 mHz. (or thereabouts!) using a SG-8002 programmable oscillator. It's a bit chirpy, so I'll modify it at some point in the near future to key a PA stage instead of keying the SG-8002 chip itself. My frequency measurements are a bit unstable, but it seems to be pretty dang close to 13.5610. It currently ID's as "RAD RAD RAD RAD RAD RADFORD VA" twice, then "RAD RAD" in slow CW before cycling again. Tim
Re: HiFer RAD on the air.
My apologies for the double message. Our cable modem connection went flaky and I ended up submitting it twice somehow!
Re: A nice, simple little Part 15 MedFER transmitter
Hi Jim, That's me (JimJ = James Jason Wentworth). I'd love to see the pictures of your Wenzel transmitter. If you would, please send them to gida@chugach.net That's my main e-mail address, but their server has been on-again, off-again for a couple of weeks, although it appears to be fixed now. That's why I temporarily got the other free but limited-session time address. -- Jason
RB copied in Maryland
www.geocities.com/lacwman/rb.jpg de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH
Re: HiFer RAD on the air.
I just put up a simple web page with information on my beacons. http://www.yougothere.com/hosted/beaconrad I'll add more information and pictures as I get time. Thanks, Tim
Ominous 20 second lasting VLF-signals
At my reception site in Germany at 8E58 and 48N43 I can receive sometimes-ominous 20 second long lasting signals of the burst pulse type on frequencies between 17 kHz and 18 kHz. These pulses always last 20 seconds and appear in different strength: sometimes these pulses are weak, but sometimes they are very strong. All of these signals show the same behaviour. These pulses, which can appear at any time, seem to come from all directions: they can be also received with the axis of the reception coil showing to North-South and also as well with the axis of the reception coil showing to East-West. Their frequency depends on the season: they are very frequently during winter times (2 times per hour), but rarely in summer (4 times per day). At first I believed these pulses occur from switching actions on high voltage lines (I live 800 metres away from 3 high voltage lines with 3 circuits for 380 kV, 1 circuit for 220 kV, 2 circuits with 110 kV and 2 circuits for single-phase AC current with 16.6667 Hertz for the German railway), but according to a letter from the power company EnBW AG, this seems not to be true, because on switching actions signals with resonance frequencies of the powerlines occur which are below 10 kHz. (I never found any subharmonics of these pulses). Corona as source is also impossible, first I live too far away from the line, second they occur only for short times. The third possibility, that these signals are from PLC is also excluded by the official of the EnBW, because PLC systems do not use frequencies below 35 kHz. I agree with him in this, because the signals are not frequency stable! What is the source of these pulses?
Re: Ominous 20 second lasting VLF-signals
Harald look at http://cosmos.oninetspeed.pt/paulo.goncalves/paulo/uk/basic.html
LEK down south
Got my first copy on LEK last night, using a 10 ft. untuned shielded loop with preamp. into IC-706G, came in most all night here in South Ms.
Re: LW Radio from IOM given the go ahead
From http://www.manxradio.com/ The Chief Minister says the final decision on whether to allow a radio mast to be built in Ramsey Bay will be taken by Transport Minister, John Shimmin. Richard Corkill says he cannot comment too much on matters which are or may be subject to legal action, but says there is no Council of Ministers line Mr Shimmin will have to follow. Isle of Man International Broadcasting, plc, wants to establish a long wave station in Ramsey, with a transmitter in the bay. The company has a full licence to broadcast but still has to meet certain conditions from Mr. Shimmin's department. The pressure group Ramsey Mast Concern hopes Mr. Shimmin will take into account the fears of the protesters as well as the advice of the Territorial Seas Committee, which felt the transmitter would not have an adverse impact. Mr Corkill says there's no pressure on the DoT to decide one way or the other:
Hifer RAD copy in Maryland
Not any special DX from VA to MD but had good copy on Hifer RAD on 13560.800 today -both the cw and QRSS3 .Sent Tim jpg of Argo captures.
Queries bout LOWDOWN reprints (fwd)
Greetings to the group A few months ago I had several glitches with my hard drive, and with my AOL E-mail storage system, so have lost part of one address, and totally lost another address, and would appreciate anyone's help here. I have tons of E-mail and things I sent to myself, for reminder notes, but when I go to call it up, the messages are blank. If you wrote to ask for a backlist of the articles in the Lowdown, you did not get the response you desired, and I'm looking for your addresses as you read this post. Here is what I have from a Mr. Holmes, I believe: tholmes@carolina Which is incomplete, and do not have the other person's name or anything, so my apology is due, but do not know where to send it... : ) Thanks everyone Bill KE9XQ ke9xq@aol.com ke9xq@hotmail.com (William Wood is the reprint service manager for the LWCA.)
135.922 overnite
www.geocities.com/lacwman/135jan20.jpg de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH
Receivers
Hi, I'm currently considering the Drake R8A and the Icom R75 and would greatly appreciate some feedback on making this choise or possibly another alternative. Any help greatly appreciated!! Tom N5AMA
Re: Receivers
I have an R75 and have been quite pleased with it. I use it mostly for beacons, but also with some software such as PKS31 reception software. I haven't regretted buying mine - price wasn't bad, either.
Re: Receivers
Hi I am also using a R75 and I am very satisfied with this receiver. It has given me many good screen captures of hifer beacons and transmissions on the 137 kHz band here in Europe. See http://www.aanesland.com Steinar
New CT beacon HS
It appears there is a new beacon in Connecticut. I noticed the listing on the LWCA site last night. The call sign is HS, frequency is 165.113 kHz (actual), mode is CW, and the location is Monroe, CT. I was able to copy it at 7:00 PM EST here in central Massachusetts. The LWCA listing shows it as operated by Bradley Graham. No email or street address is given, so I don't have another way to report the reception. Screen shot: 20 second filtered sound clip: John Andrews, W1TAG FN42ch
HIFER YEN
HI THANKS AL K2SSE K2SSE@COMCAST.NET
Musicmann 279khz Long Wave
Looks like Musicmann (or whatever they decide to call it) will be on the air by around October, possibly earlier. Phoned them th other day and they were still in the office at 9pm! so looks like they're getting busy planning the building of the 500 kw CFA and offshore platform. I would think it should be audible in North America if th aerial works well. Paul Strickland Lancashire, UK.
GA copied in Southwest VA
Copied GA from Montreal here in Radford this morning. Capture here: http://www.yougothere.com/hosted/beaconrad/RX/GA_1.23.2003.jpg My RX frequency was a little off, but you can clearly see the "GA" in the capture. Receive antenna is the 34 foot sloper used for RAD's transmitter. Receiver is a Grundig YB-400PE. Tim
Lowfer and Medfer Station setups...
Hi Gang... I have been "lurking" for awhile reading all of the messages... I have been a ham since 1971 and am currently interested in LW and MW... Please list your receiver type, preamps if any, receiving antennas used, transmitter type, modes of transmission, transmitting antenna used (setup and coils, etc.) and ground system descriptions... Also, describing distances for reception of your transmitter would be helpful... Thanks, Kevin B. Paxson - Ni5o (future PAX)
"NWNJ" is looking for listeners . . . . . . . .
LowFER beacon NWNJ is enjoying very low tree losses on its signal right now. The antenna current has doubled since Fall because the cold, dry weather is reducing the RF absorption from the hardwood forest here. NWNJ will be on-the-air from Friday (now) until about 10 PM-EST on Monday night. It will be sending CW at about 10 wpm. Its frequency has been running about 6 or 7 Hz higher than its listed 189.650 KHz due to the cold (TX is outside). All reception reports will be greatly appreciated and QSLed, if an address is provided. Thank you.
Re: Lowfer and Medfer Station setups...
On the LWCA Home Page, select "LowFERs/MedFERs", then select "About Part 15" and take a look at the links including member's pages.This should give you an idea of what works. Back and current issues of the Lowdown have articles on stations and antennas, too.
Re: LW Radio from IOM given the go ahead
From http://anotherviewengland.tripod.com/ Way, way back in the Sixties when I was but a lad , radio in the U.K. had little for the teenager, with the BBC monopoly only offering 'Saturday Club' Now, after boring years of 'one size has to fit all' commercial radio and the BBC fooling around with a digital radio system few bother with a NEW STATION is coming - beamed to the U.K. and Eire from the same island. But this time from a proper platform, not a ship prone to the caprice of the elements, fully licensed, not prone to the political vagaries of Whitehall, Of cause the station does not intend to limit it's listenership in any way and wants all ages to listen , so it's programmes need to be far better than the present organisations offer, that's a challenge I for one believe they can take on , knowing what's wrong now and fixing it. No we don't want wall to wall pop or wall to wall anything but we do desperately need a station that listens to it's listeners , gathers feedback I wish the IOMBc the very best wishes .
Dex and his FSK NC
A lot of talk about that strange signal but here is Dex and his new FSK QRSS30 :-) www.geocities.com/lacwman/jan24fsknc.jpg de Lloyd W3NF
Increasing Loop Diameter from 3 to 5 Feet
I presently have a 3-ft diameter shielded loop that I am using for receive only. The loop has a 1-turn primary and a 10-turn secondary with a variable capacitor across it. I use the loop for 200 to 500kHz reception and it works quite nicely. I am considering increasing the diameter from 3 to 5 feet. I am using G4FGQ's RJELOOP3 program (a very good program by the way) and it tells me that for the same frequency range, if I keep the same turns ratio and reduce the capacitance accordingly, I will get an approximate antenna gain of 7dB. It also states that the impedance seen by the receiver will approximately double from a range of 200 to 1300 ohms with the 3-foot loop, to 500 to 2700 ohms with the 5-foot loop. Will the increase in antenna impedance as seen by the receiver, negatively offset any of the 7dB gain that the larger antenna provides? Is the increase of 7dB significant enough to tackle the larger loop project? I am primarily using Spectran to find NDB beacons. I can easily see a 3dB difference in the signal strength of any two beacons. I think that a 7dB difference would be significant to bringing in signals out of the noise. My main concern is will I see a 7dB increase by changing my loop diameter from 3 to 5 feet? Thanks for all input. Al KA5JGV
Re: Increasing Loop Diameter from 3 to 5 Feet
:: Will the increase in antenna impedance as seen by the receiver, negatively offset any of the 7dB gain that the larger antenna provides? :: Very possibly. Depends on the input impedance of the receiver. Unless it is significantly higher than that of the loop, the receiver will load it down even further than it may be doing now. That could offset all the gain you're looking for. :: Is the increase of 7dB significant enough to tackle the larger loop project? :: If it can actually be achieved, and if you're not already limited by atmospheric noise, I would say 7 db is very worthwhile indeed. John
Re: "NWNJ" is looking for listeners . . . . . . . .
John, I've been listening for your beacon since late last fall with no definite success. sometimes I think there is something there, but can't pull it out. I have a carrier near your frequency, but still should be able to hear it. "TH" CW is copiable day and night at my QTH in Southern Maryland FM-18, so I should be hearing you. I'll keep trying. Jon Schumacher, K1NV
NI5O QRV for Lowfer activity soon...
I will be monitoring Lowfer and Medfer activity in the near future with a new Drake R8B and an loaded endfed 140' inverted U antenna... I may try for Lowfer and Medfer beacon transmitting by next fall or winter... I am in Spring, Texas, 25 miles north of Houston (Grid EM20fa) 30.0252 N and 95.5284 W... I mailed off my membership to LWCA today and hope to see many of you in my log down the road... Some may want to check out the website of W5JGV/WC2XSR/13 at http://home.att.net/~shmrg for FCC Part 5 Experimental work with 200W ERP on 166.5 khz and 440 to 495 khz... Interesting stuff... Kevin - NI5O
Re: NI5O QRV for Lowfer activity soon...
Hi Kevin, 73 Tom N5AMA
Re: "NWNJ" is looking for listeners . . . . . . . .
Thanks Jon. Ray, W2RS, has also reported a carrier on my frequency. I want to change my frequency as soon as I can find a suitable crystal (preferrably below 180 KHz). Other plans for "NWNJ" include finishing the radial-ground system and adding a top-hat to my "plain Jane" antenna. I am waiting for better weather there, HA. Your comments are greatly appreciated.
Group Of 8 Beacons Captured In Maryland
Last night everything fell into place for me to get many captures of 8 beacons on 185.300 Khz. Here are 2 captures to give you an idea of how they stacked up. http://www.wb3anq.com/jan29grp800045.jpg http://www.wb3anq.com/jan0300058.jpg 73 Larry Putman WB3ANQ Pasadena, Maryland FM19rc
Re: Group Of 8 Beacons Captured In Maryland
Thanks to all for the kudos!! I have updated my webpage now and have several captures in both QRSS30 Normal and Slow modes. I have noticed that LEK is coming in a little earlier each night and staying longer! Maybe we still have a chance for a group of 9 or 10! 73 Larry WB3ANQ http://www.wb3anq.com/index.htm
Tips for getting started
185.3 Eight
Here's a couple of captures from an overnite of the crowd on 185.3 www.geocities.com/lacwman/30jana.jpg www.geocities.com/lacwman/30janc.jpg de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH
LowFER Reception Report
Heard BOB this am at 1054Z, 449. Came up to 559 at 1321Z. Heard BA at 1057Z, 339. First time I've heard BA as I recall. 160M was open for the last several nites and that is a good sign. 73, W9RB.
Re: LowFER Reception Report
FB for the notice, Robert. I was wondering about both of them, now will be looking their way using the info as posted generally: the highnoonfilm Web site. Tonight it is,
Re: Tips for getting started
Hi Stephen, Well you found this LWCA site and board, you are close. You didn't say if your interest in NDBs of Part 15 LowFER beacons. For the latter, backup to the home page, select Digital Modes & Ham. Read over the material in a general manner, then at the bottom are some sites that contain further info/ideas for the "amateur" interest. NDB info is also found via the Home page. Cheers, Peter
VLF OpenLab update
A new article about: "Noise suppression on a PC" by Tomislav Stimac and Berislav Bracun is on line on www.vlf.it.
Re: Tips for getting started
If you are interested in NDB's two good starting sources are here: http://www.lwca.org/library/articles/kh6sr/ http://www.alan.gale.clara.co.uk/files/hunter.pdf Al
www.lwca.org
potrzebie
Posted by Mike Terry on January 09, 2003 at 15:58:02
Posted by Mitch VE3OT on January 09, 2003 at 17:24:17
Logged your staion on 13 MHz yesterday ( Wednesday ) afternoon. You were audible about RST 449, so had no trouble copying the signal. Definite "whoop" to the signal - starting low and moving higher in tone as you send each character.
I have placed captures on site:
http://technology.fanshawec.on.ca/tele410/pbj.htm
Posted by Jackie on January 09, 2003 at 19:21:58
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 09, 2003 at 21:14:57
Posted by Tom Gruis on January 10, 2003 at 17:53:55
Posted by Harald on January 11, 2003 at 01:39:29
It can be best received with the axis of reception coil towards East-West but it is also receivable with the axis of my reception coil oriented towards North-South.
Which station is it, which I received?
The signal is in the strength similiar to that of GBZ, so I do not suppose the station is located in India!
Is SOA50 back again?
Or which transmitter is it?
Posted by Mike Terry on January 11, 2003 at 10:00:32
Posted by Harald on January 11, 2003 at 12:38:56
The line is located in Germany, approximately 40 kilometres south of Stuttgart.
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 11, 2003 at 19:34:52
de Lloyd W3NF
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 11, 2003 at 22:17:18
de Lloyd W3NF
Posted by Tim Pauly on January 11, 2003 at 23:56:55
Posted by John Davis on January 12, 2003 at 00:11:52
http://www.qru.de/radiation.html
Posted by John Davis on January 12, 2003 at 01:34:44
Posted by Harald on January 12, 2003 at 02:22:26
But in VLF-range the situation is much more difficult then in mediumwave or longwave broadcasting bands, because there are voltages greater then 100 kV on the aerial, so the filters are very expensive!
So there is question: on how many frequencies below 30 kHz can the following transitters transmit on the same time:
GBR Rugby (nominal 16 kHz), GBZ Criggion (nominal 16 kHz), GQD Anthorn, Skelton, IQV Tavolara (nominal 20.75 kHz) and DHO38 West-Rhauderfehn (nominal 23.4 kHz) at the same time?
How is the situation with HWU Le Blanc? It works on 18.3 kHz, 20.9 kHz and 21.7 kHz often simultaneously. Are there 3 aerials in Le Blanc or share there 1, 2 or 3 transmitters one aerial?
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 12, 2003 at 07:53:47
de Lloyd W3NF
Posted by Mike Terry on January 12, 2003 at 08:40:40
Posted by John Andrews, W1TAG on January 12, 2003 at 10:45:48
G3KEV 135921.75 QRSS60 G3LDO 135922.0 QRSS60 DF6NM 135922.3/922.4 DFCW G3YXM (freq. TBD)
Posted by Peter Barick on January 13, 2003 at 12:21:54
"
RB is back on from midnite to 8 am, CST (or 600Z to 1400Z). using QRSS5, at 186.92 kHz. Reception reports will be QSL'd. 73, W9RB. "
Robert, I have a copy.
Saturday, 1-10-03, A strong Argo copy of RB (N IL) on 186.92 kHz using QRSS 3 mode was made using a Drake R8 and E-W 10-foot Loop.
Posted by Paul Strickland on January 14, 2003 at 10:31:23
Posted by R. Bicking W9RB on January 14, 2003 at 17:55:58
Posted by JimJ on January 16, 2003 at 01:14:56
Posted by Jim on January 16, 2003 at 14:31:26
Posted by Mike Terry on January 16, 2003 at 14:45:07
Posted by Tim Pauly on January 16, 2003 at 20:40:42
Posted by Tim Pauly on January 16, 2003 at 20:42:41
Posted by Tim Pauly on January 16, 2003 at 20:44:47
Posted by JimJ on January 16, 2003 at 21:34:23
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 17, 2003 at 07:25:22
Copied Bob's RB with Argo QRSS10 hr in Maryland this morning.Looks like 695 miles.
Posted by Tim Pauly on January 17, 2003 at 09:03:23
Posted by Harald on January 17, 2003 at 12:23:36
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 17, 2003 at 13:19:47
and see if any of these types may decribe what you may be hearing..
de Lloyd W3NF
Posted by Lewis on January 17, 2003 at 17:32:23
Lewis WA4Lip
Posted by Mike Terry on January 18, 2003 at 16:21:04
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 19, 2003 at 15:57:26
de Lloyd W3NF
Posted by William Wood on January 20, 2003 at 14:31:59
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 20, 2003 at 15:55:39
Had a nice copy on the 135.922 stations at about 0739z here in Maryland
Posted by Tom on January 21, 2003 at 08:36:55
I'm trying to make a comeback to earlier efforts at the lowfer hobby. Reviewing the latest material on this site tells me I have to upgrade my station. I am currently using a 8' diameter shielded loop with fet preamp and a broadcast trap for the strongest local station (740khz - Houston, TX area). This seems to be working well except the receivers I'm currently using are probably not stable enough for the current computer/software techniques. I'm using a Collins R389 and Mackay 3010C which are nice receivers but definately not current state of the art with respect to stability.
Posted by Frank Carson on January 22, 2003 at 06:45:04
Posted by Steinar Aanesland on January 22, 2003 at 16:06:57
Posted by John Andrews on January 22, 2003 at 19:14:47
http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/HS.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/hs2.wav
Posted by AL on January 22, 2003 at 22:41:12
I JUST GOT SOME GREAT SCREEN SHOTS OF MY HIFER BEACON YEN ON 13558.179 + - FROM BRIAN AE0P IN SIOUX CITY IA.
THE BEACON IS LOCATED IN CENTRAL FL 22 MILES NW OF MICKEY MOUSE. ANYONE ELSE HEARING IT PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
Posted by Paul Strickland on January 23, 2003 at 06:14:09
Posted by Tim Pauly on January 23, 2003 at 11:53:57
Posted by Kevin Paxson - ni5o on January 24, 2003 at 10:48:16
As a newbie to MW and LW experimental transmitting and receiving, I was wondering if all of you guys could list your station and equipment setups... It would help many of us who are not on the air or activecurrently, but may be in the future !!!
Posted by John Bogath on January 24, 2003 at 17:30:06
Posted by Robert Bicking, W9RB on January 24, 2003 at 17:45:34
Posted by Mike Terry on January 25, 2003 at 02:01:51
presented by Brian Mathews and later 'Pick of the Pops'(Alan Freeman) on Sunday afternoon on the Light Programme whilst during the week some pop requests were played by Cyril Fletcher, Eamon Andrews, and David Jacobs etc,
on programmes such as 'Housewives Choice' , TV had 'Duke Box Jury' chaired by David Jocobs,'Six Five Special' with Don Lang and his 'Frantic Five' and Jo Douglas and Pete Murray , with'Boy Meets Girl' on ITV where Marty Wilde,
Billy Fury and Cliff Richard rocked for all of 30 minutes a week. Later' Top of The Pops' brought Jimmy Saville , David Jacobs and Alan Freeman. The Sixties started with Adam Faith, Elvis and Cliff and ended with The Beatles,
Elvis and Cliff but with many changes in the pop radio scene brought about mainly because of a radio station originally moored in Ramsey Bay , Isle of Man which changed the whole way of listening and even the might of the British government has never ended the story .
and above all with a good strong signal , on Long Wave , so not effected by the limitations and crowding of Medium Wave or the commercial limitations of FM or DAB. on 279 kHz it will easily cover the British Isles because, as the Pirates of the 60's found , the sea is a tremendous 'ground plane' - to the listener this mean a better 'sent' signal.
(no pun intended) and moves with the needs of those listeners, not tries to push out mush to the masses.
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 25, 2003 at 12:48:23
Posted by AL KA5JGV on January 26, 2003 at 15:58:51
Posted by John Davis on January 26, 2003 at 19:58:34
Posted by Jon M. Schumacher on January 27, 2003 at 08:45:30
Posted by Kevin B. Paxson - ni5o on January 27, 2003 at 20:18:28
Posted by Tom on January 29, 2003 at 07:51:39
Welcome to the group. I'm just around the corner from you (south of Tomball). I'm presently monitoring using older vacuum tube gear but setting up a R75 with a dedicated computer on ARGO and a 8' diameter shielded loop. I have had a beacon transmitter set up in the past using a base loaded vert but am in the process of upgrading that as well. Hope to hear you on. tsmith@hal-pc.org
Posted by John Bogath on January 29, 2003 at 11:18:35
Posted by Larry Putman on January 30, 2003 at 08:06:19
I will have a series of captures on my webpage later today.
Posted by Larry Putman on January 30, 2003 at 12:27:25
The grouping stayed together most of the night until LEK faded out.
Posted by Stephen Hayward on January 31, 2003 at 01:30:18
Hello,
Please advise as to the requirements for getting involved in this area of the frequency spectrum. (Basically, how does one get started?)
Posted by lloyd chastant on January 31, 2003 at 07:48:11
Posted by Robert Bicking on January 31, 2003 at 10:33:02
Posted by Peter on January 31, 2003 at 14:17:33
Peter, N IL
Posted by Peter on January 31, 2003 at 15:56:01
Posted by Renato Romero on January 31, 2003 at 17:42:51
73, Renato
Posted by AL KA5JGV on January 31, 2003 at 21:31:52