Past LW Messages - December 2017


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Whats the big carrier
Posted by Bill Hensel on December 01, 2017 at 18:37:32.

On 13555.83 I have a s9 carrier there as of 1825 utc...It sure isn't a 4 mw signal.

 

Re: Whats the big carrier
Posted by ed holland on December 01, 2017 at 23:53:04.
In reply to Whats the big carrier posted by Bill Hensel on December 01, 2017

I'll check for this when I get home... that's a big signal.

Now I begin to see the appeal of a web SDR - it would be great to monitor while I'm at work :)

 

Re: Whats the big carrier
Posted by John Davis on December 02, 2017 at 18:02:25.
In reply to Re: Whats the big carrier posted by ed holland on December 01, 2017

Is it still there today, Bill? I'm not seeing it here in KS.

 

SJ Tonight?
Posted by John Davis on December 02, 2017 at 23:20:56.

Sal, would it be feasible to operate SJ tonight? Looks like this'll be one of the few nights this winter (maybe the last one) that I may be able to spend some time in the field.

 

Re: K0LR HiFer Transmitter
Posted by Chris Waldrup on December 02, 2017 at 23:52:54.
In reply to K0LR HiFer Transmitter posted by Jack Roblin on November 24, 2017

Hi,

Yes the Hifer transmitter I’m running for PBJ is the KØLR one. I’ve been running with it since 2001 or so, and never had any problems whatsoever. It just works.

Chris KD4PBJ

 

Re: SJ Tonight?
Posted by Sal, K1RGO on December 03, 2017 at 02:41:54.
In reply to SJ Tonight? posted by John Davis on December 02, 2017

Hi John
I am running SJ right now , and I'll run it overnight and as well, Sunday.
If interest picks up, SJ can go 12hr/7 (sunset to sunrise).
later...........
Sal

 

Re: SJ Tonight?
Posted by John Davis on December 03, 2017 at 06:33:30.
In reply to Re: SJ Tonight? posted by Sal, K1RGO on December 03, 2017

Thanks Sal. Am watching for you now. SIW is good and strong, and I'm already seeing bits and pieces of SJ too. We'll see what the next few hours bring.

If I might suggest, this might be a good month to operate nightly. Being the traditional best time for 1750 m DX, there are likely to be more folks tuning in randomly than at other times of the year.

73
John

 

An Evening of EARs
Posted by John Davis on December 03, 2017 at 06:37:34.

No QRN to speak of this evening, but there was a fair amount of QRM and periods of slow QSB. Got some nice captures of EAR through it all anyway.

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Re: An Evening of EARs
Posted by John Bruce McCreath on December 03, 2017 at 14:43:57.
In reply to An Evening of EARs posted by John Davis on December 03, 2017


Thanks for the report and Argo snip, John. EAR just keeps plugin' away!

73, Bruce

 

Re: Renewing 47CFR5 Grants
Posted by Ward K7PO on December 03, 2017 at 16:55:06.
In reply to Re: Renewing 47CFR5 Grants posted by Chuck, N1KGY on November 22, 2017

Chuck,

Sorry so late on reply, but I just saw your post. Ron WH2XND and I are very close to operating on 75 khz. Our grants allow 68 - 76 khz with 10W ERP (yeah, right!). We both should be able to manage ~2W or so. I finished a couple W1VD design KW amps for 75K, and am now in the process of testing the LPFs. I'll be measuring my antenna for the matching network in a couple hours, and will be ready for operation soon.

It would be nice to have some company down there!

-73-

Ward K7PO/WH2XXP

 

Re: SJ Tonight? (and WM, SIW)
Posted by John Davis on December 03, 2017 at 17:46:38.
In reply to Re: SJ Tonight? posted by John Davis on December 03, 2017

Here's the best SJ of the night, shortly before it began a long, slow pre-sunrise fade. What's remarkable about this capture is that SJ was strong enough for me to use Argo set for QRSS20 speed. Normally, I can only detect enough SJ signal to decode a cramped view at QRSS30 (see the other attached file, 0203dec-SJ2). WM and SIW both showed up nicely, too.

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MLS Saturday Night
Posted by John Davis on December 03, 2017 at 18:14:37.

Between my EAR session and the one for SJ and companions, I spent about an hour and a half listening for MLS. Usually, it doesn't get strong enough until later in the night, but I was able to retrieve enough to display a very cramped ID at QRSS60. At top is the normal size Argo display at QRSS60, and at bottom is the result when magnified to double the size.

John

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Re: SJ Tonight?
Posted by Sal, K1RGO on December 03, 2017 at 19:27:14.
In reply to Re: SJ Tonight? posted by John Davis on December 03, 2017

Cool,
You just inspired me to get back on.I will run SJ sunset to sunrise for the season starting today. I was discouraged last year...hl
later.....Sal

 

Daytime WM and SIW
Posted by John Davis on December 04, 2017 at 01:11:58.

After last night's captures of SJ, I continued to watch WM and SIW into late morning and checked back on them throughout the day. Apart from a fairly substantial dip around sunrise, both signals maintained a fairly constant presence...until about 4:30 PM CST, when SIW faded away on the QRSS30 screen (shown here) and was just barely visible on the QRSS60 screen. That was half an hour before sunset and was no surprise, except that WM did not fade at the same time. If anything, it got a little stronger. Will check on that and see if SJ has shown up again when I go back in a few minutes.

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Weekend HiFERs (Saturday)
Posted by John Davis on December 04, 2017 at 06:11:25.

Had the unexpected good fortune to be able to go to the farm and monitor this weekend...something that will happen very rarely this winter, unfortunately. On Saturday afternoon between about 3:30 and 5:00 PM, the watering hole offered up USC, EH, RY, and MTI at times. WV came in for a while after 4 o'clock, and I heard RF for the first time up at 13,564.03. By dark, the band was dying rapidly, with only EH and RY visible intermittently.

Sunday was interesting. I'll have captures from then in a later message.

 

Sunday Night SJ, WM, SIW
Posted by John Davis on December 04, 2017 at 06:31:21.

I reported earlier that SIW faded out about half an hour before sunset. WM did the same about 15 minutes later, but both returned right after sunset here. And, as you see, SJ showed up two and a half hours later, with a bit of temporary frequency drift. At the same time, WM was so strong as to exhibit mild dogbones.

All three signals experienced periods of fading during the evening. I'm currently trying for MLS, as it is often a creature of late-night. It'll have a tough time getting through all the QRM, but maybe it'll make it.

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Re: Weekend HiFERs (Saturday)
Posted by Mike N8OOU on December 04, 2017 at 06:33:00.
In reply to Weekend HiFERs (Saturday) posted by John Davis on December 04, 2017

JD

If I may add this to your thread, I took the Hifer down for a while Saturday and collected this capture of EH and RY on my new KiwiSDR. The screen shot was taken before I figured out the frequency calibration and setting it in Argo. See Dropbox;

www.dropbox.com/s/521pk9u5k5jxt6m/dec020001.jpg

Mike 73

 

Re: Sunday Night SJ, WM, SIW
Posted by Mike N8OOU on December 04, 2017 at 07:03:15.
In reply to Sunday Night SJ, WM, SIW posted by John Davis on December 04, 2017

JD

Thanks for your time in the field to snag the reception reports. I have updated the WM beacon web page with most of the changes I have made this season except for the last two that I just implemented. I got the Arduino exciter working well, and learned a better way to couple that signal to the loading coil.

wmbeacon.meekfarm.us

73 Mike

 

Hifer GNK
Posted by Brian nb9e on December 04, 2017 at 20:21:48.

Nice copy of Hifer GNK 12:20PST DN10tx PCR1000 to Discone 75 ft

 

Sunday HiFERS
Posted by ed holland on December 05, 2017 at 00:55:07.

Hi Folks,

Good listening conditions yesterday, early afternoon Pacific time. High in the band, audible copy of GNK, RF and RQ were all noted at times, fading in for a few IDs and then sinking.

Near the 13,555 hunting ground, we there were several traces for a time, when using Spectrum Lab to pick out signals from the noise. WM, Both SIWs for a brief period and USC, the latter reaching clear audibility at times.

Alas, I did not have longer to listen and log, but conditions were great for listening here in northern CA.

Although I used the NRD 535 for the above loggings, I did spend a little time evaluating the NRD 525 to which I devoted considerable time to diagnose and repair. It turns out to be an excellent beacon machine (very stable) and shows a lot of promise for LF receiving work if I ever get setup for it.

Cheers,

Ed

 

Re: Weekend HiFERs (Sunday-WV, RF, FRC, PCO, AZ, more)
Posted by John Davis on December 05, 2017 at 07:16:36.
In reply to Re: Weekend HiFERs (Saturday) posted by Mike N8OOU on December 04, 2017

HiFERs started out slowly on Sunday morning...at least, at the watering hole. Until 10 AM CST, only EH and RY were visible. Elsewhere, WV was astonishingly good for a while. So was RF, although for shorter time; and FRC was visible and about 50% audible.

About 10:08 AM, NC rapidly materialized out of nothing, and then at 10:10, USC started a slow fade-in. Soon, the Big Four were all present, and USC even dogboned for a while, producing a bit of audio intermod with EH that showed up just under the NC squarewave. Though not shown in this capture, MTI did appear a few times during the day and was audible a couple of times. No sign of the Illinois path all day, unfortunately.

In the afternoon, I took a shot at PCO and saw the characteristic signal at the right place. It was clearly keyed Morse, but with all the neighboring carriers I could not reliably decode it by ear. However, the presence of the signal prompted me to try for AZ, which I soon found. (The paths are not all that close, but I have noticed in the past that the presence of one sometimes hints that the other one may be available too.)

And, there has been a mystery signal at 13,555.350 that shows up as a few seconds of slightly distorted FSK square wave. My fist thought was IMD, but the frequency doesn't match any mixing product from the available stations, and it's also a lot steadier in frequency than NC or EH, the two most common sources of intermod. Anyone want to take credit?

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SJ
Posted by Jonathan Jesse on December 05, 2017 at 22:38:08.

SJ looking good. This was grabbed at about 11:55am local Monday.

Jon WS1K
FN41qw

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Test Message
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 08, 2017 at 08:47:45.

Just a test message and image to verify my authenticated author settings

 

WSPR for HiFers?
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 08, 2017 at 22:24:36.

Any reason why most folks are not running WSPR for their HiFer beacon? It seems like a natural fit.

I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in a "WSPR Weekend" for 13.56~Mhz... we could turn (WSPRnet) reporting off and just posts spots here.

Just thinking out loud.

I have set up my U3S to run in QRSS-3 at 13.556.905 sending "MMK". I picked those settings because QRSS-3 seems to be the most common mode, and '.905 is clear of other users (listed here), and sounds reasonably clear at my QTH.

Of course, adding WSPR to it's cycle would bee easy - just add a config block for that mode/frequency and set it running.

The ultra-QRPp modification was easy - I just added a header which bypasses the BS170 final, and directs the output of the synth through a 10dB pad to the LPF instead (I'm using a standard 20M LPF). The synth produces about 2.2 volts of RF, which is about 44mW, so a 10dB pad should be about right to make it legal for Part 15 if I've done my math correctly - assuming an antenna with gain equivalent to a dipole.

The vertical antenna I have available to dedicate to it for a while is a 23' aluminum vertical with "fish tail" top loading, over a ground-mat of 2"X4" galvanized fencing which is roughly 12'X 25' in size, plus a 4' (lightening) ground rod. I'll match it with a homebrew L-Match made for 20/30/40M QRP-portable work which is presently sitting idle. It should perform about as well as a vertical dipole, so should be legal with the same power input... again, if I've done my math correctly ;P

Anyone want to offer any thoughts/corrections before I put this on the air?

Thanks,
Chuck

 

Re: WSPR for HiFers?
Posted by John Davis on December 09, 2017 at 06:38:38.
In reply to WSPR for HiFers? posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 08, 2017

I agree that WSPR-2 is a good mode for 22 meters, and I suspect the main reason it's not more widely used is that most HiFERs were put on the air with simpler transmitters that have not been replaced or significantly upgraded since then. With the U3S, though, WSPR is simpler and pretty economical.

Secondarily, there is the need to keep the transmitter and the computer at the receive end in reasonably close time synchronization, whereas QRSS, FSK, and CW can be copied whenever you begin listening, provided the signal is present in the first place. This, too, is no longer a big objection. Bottom line: it'd be great to see more WSPR signals on the air, either continuously or alternating with other modes (also not difficult with the U3S, Arduino, or Raspberry Pi implementations).

I would recommend double-checking the power calculations, however. The power represented by that 2.2 V measurement depends on the impedance at the measurement point. Given that P=E2/R, 2.2 V across 50 ohms is 96.8 mW, or 64.5 mW for 75 ohms; therefore, the pad would need to have greater than 10 dB attenuation.

Also, a monopole antenna at ground level does not correspond to the gain of a dipole. It actually has 3 dB pattern gain over a free-space dipole, because all its radiated power is confined to half the volume of a dipole. Thus, the correct input to the base of a monopole is just over 2.2 mW.

In addition, the 23 ft antenna is .319 λ, which has a slight pattern gain over a λ/4 vertical; plus some additional gain because of current redistribution caused by the top hat. However, I doubt that these two factors are likely to be significant in your calculation of the necessary attenuation, because ground system losses at 22 m will probably offset that slight advantage.

Hope that helps.

John

 

Re: WSPR for HiFers?
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 09, 2017 at 19:26:55.
In reply to Re: WSPR for HiFers? posted by John Davis on December 09, 2017

Thanks John, I knew something didn't look correct, but wasn't seeing my error. Chalk it up to being pretty darned rusty with the math skills ;P

Yes, FP will be made resistive @ 50ohms, since that's what the LPF needs to see. And 2.2v/50ohm = 44mA, not 44mW. So to bring that |~96.8mW >> 50ohm| signal down to 2.2mW I'm going to need ~16dB of attenuation, not the 10dB I presently have cobbled together... so back to the bench to sort through resistors.

Also, I wasn't thinking of the antenna as a monopole; I was treating it as a close analog of an EFHW, and thus assuming "unity gain ref. to a dipole" - but you're right, elevation of the current loop is nowhere near high enough AGL to think in terms of free-space gain, and I totally overlooked the ~3dB of gain caused by ground reflections. Again, thanks - I should know better than to be hasty and 'ballpark' the math in my head, especially when I'm tired and in a hurry. I'm going to fire up EZNEC this afternoon and make a rigorous evaluation of the antenna before I go further, and also verify the RF voltage after the LPF on the 'scope, so my attenuator will be spot on.

Now, if I could just get some relief from the constant 'womp womp womp' of CODAR on 13.55xMhz I'd be a happy camper. I'm close enough to VA Beach and the Outer Banks that it is S9+30 ~ +50dB most days, here.

 

Re: WSPR for HiFers?
Posted by John Davis on December 09, 2017 at 20:33:01.
In reply to Re: WSPR for HiFers? posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 09, 2017

Chuck wrote:
Now, if I could just get some relief from the constant 'womp womp womp' of CODAR on 13.55xMhz I'd be a happy camper.

Amen. Here in the middle of the country, we don't get any one CODAR rig nearly as strong as you do, although we do get them from both coasts at once on a good (bad) day. The one ray of hope is that all their experimental licenses expire in less than five years and won't be renewed, thus requiring a move to the bands which have newly been created for them.

One of those is just below the 22 meter band, so if we get to missing the old familiar racket, we can tune down a few kHz to get our fill again. ;-)

 

13.555.709?
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 09, 2017 at 20:40:31.

I'm seeing a carrier at 13.555.709, in amidst the CODAR.
It's riding some deep QSB in and out, but it appears to be an unmodulated carrier (unless it is very long dit QRSS).
I don't see it listed on the HiFer page. Anyone want to claim it?

 

sidebands
Posted by David Frantz wa4sze on December 09, 2017 at 23:01:13.

Greetings to all!!! I have changed my power supply for wspr 630 meters has been any change? I have had people tell me I have multiple s spots or 60 hz sidebands sorry for delay in changing power supply as I have had other pressing problems.

 

630M QRSS Tonight?
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 00:09:46.

So I have ARGO running again (QRSS3) tonight but I'm not seeing any activity 472.8~474.2Khz I'm seeing WSPR traces quite clearly if I go up the band...but no QRSS/DFCW sigs. Anybody on tonight?

WX here is cold with sleet, put hot water bottles in the chicken coop; gonna stay warm myself here in front of the radios.

 

Re: sidebands
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 00:31:59.
In reply to sidebands posted by David Frantz wa4sze on December 09, 2017

David,
I'm seeing no 60Hz mixing products from your signal tonight. Previously I've seen as many a four decodes, and additional spurs which were outside the 1400~1600Hz window, but not tonight. Your signal does appear to be just at the threshold of overmodulation when I look at it in ARGO - not severe, but just at the threshold of "spreading". See attached ARGO grab - your sig. is at 1453Hz.

------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m
0018 -3 -2.4 0.475654 0 WA4SZE EM65 23
0022 -4 -2.3 0.475653 0 WA4SZE EM65 23
0026 -6 -2.3 0.475653 0 WA4SZE EM65 23


 

Re: sidebands
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 00:33:17.
In reply to Re: sidebands posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017

Maybe image will attach this time.

 

Re: sidebands
Posted by david frantz on December 10, 2017 at 00:36:51.
In reply to Re: sidebands posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017

How can I over modulate the signal ????? I know of one adjustment on the ultimate 3 that is the fet bias. The driving power is about 200 mw the TPO power is about 4 watts or so so having little exp on wspr I am looking for advise. best 73

 

Re: sidebands
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 00:37:49.
In reply to Re: sidebands posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017

once more

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Re: sidebands
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 01:21:00.
In reply to Re: sidebands posted by david frantz on December 10, 2017

Hard to say without knowing more about your amplifier. Given the previous 60Hz images, I'm guessing it's a tube amp, Class C, and running a pair of 24G/3C24s in Push-Pull?
Lots of NDBs in the <=50 watt class ran just such a PA. I've worked on many of them.

Now, running Class C, the grid impedance changes as the exciting signal rises above 0 volts, and grid current starts to flow. If there's not quite enough drive power, then the signal will get 'mushy' or even flat-top in the peak of the RF cycle as a result.
"Not enough drive" is common when a toroidal transformer is used to drive a tube amp from a solid-state exciter. The toroidal transformer is used to step up the voltage of the driver to the tube's drive requirement(typically 120 to 140 volts [peak] drive for 3C24s in P-P), but in doing so it also reduces the available drive _current_. Since the grid impedance is nearly infinite while the grid is negative, drive current is <1mA in this portion of the RF cycle.
But when the grid goes positive at each peak of its swing, the drive current required will go up, and so an exciter which is under-powered will produce "soft topped" drive during the 20 to 40 volts of peak positive swing.

Interestingly, reducing the (negative) grid bias to try and increase output from a PA which is under-driven in this fashion exacerbates the problem - with less bias, *more* of the drive signal will be in the grid-positive region, and severe distortion will often result. The closer you get to Class B operation (0 volts bias) the more driving power such a PA needs; conversely, the greater the (negative) grid bias, the less drive power is required.

If this applies to your situation, then the 3C24 tubes should have **at least** -60 volts of bias, and run cleanest at between -70 and -75 volts when the plates are at 1000 to 1200 volts, and plate current should be 75 to 80mA for a {max} output of 55~65 watts. For the 3C24, 90mA is the Meltdown ***MAX*** value of plate current for a P-P pair. Derate appropriately if your plate supply is ~800V: 60mA to 70mA is your target - that's 50 to 55 watts input, which would produce 35 to 45 watts output.

Less is more, and cleaner is better - set the bias for -72 volts and take what you get from that for now. Adding another BS170 (or two) to the final in the U3S and increasing it's (PA only) supply voltage to about 7.5 volts will double the drive power available to the 3C24s - then you can leave the bias of the PA at -72 volts and still get a clean, solid PA output of 50 watts. No mush, no fuss.

Regards,

Chuck

 

Re: sidebands
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 02:10:22.
In reply to sidebands posted by David Frantz wa4sze on December 09, 2017

Maybe I spoke too soon - I'm seeing a spur 120 Hz off your signal here:

0150 5 -1.8 0.475654 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453
0150 -28 -1.8 0.475773 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453

But in these time slots you're fine -
0158 -3 -1.7 0.475653 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453
0202 0 -1.7 0.475654 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453
0206 -2 -1.7 0.475654 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453

Notice the difference? It's about 5~8dB in signal strength. And that is consistent with what I have seen on previous nights.

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Re: WSPR for HiFers?
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 02:13:45.
In reply to Re: WSPR for HiFers? posted by John Davis on December 09, 2017

It's about impossible to receive HiFers here, John. Even with a very tight BPF in front of the RX input, when it's right on 13.52~13.57 there's no blocking it, and it's deafening. I'm looking forward to it going away... at which point I will probably get more into that aspect of the hobby.

LowFer / 136Khz / 475Khz transmitting is as impossible to do here at the house as HiFer receiving, because while we have a good sized piece of property, it's mostly covered with large hardwood trees except for the side where I have a 12K8 utility run - there's no clear area for a Tee-Top or Inverted-L of any respectable size unless the top hat is right in among the branches, and we know what that costs in losses. That's why I need to do the remote setup for my MF/LF transmitter at our AG property... which is proving to be more of a challenge than I anticipated - I can't quite reach it with a WiFi link (as I planned to), and while UHF portables are cheap enough these days to use for a control link, I still have to code up an actual control program - either ion an Arduino or a Raspberryi-Pi - to translate everything to/from discretes at each end.

 

Re: sidebands
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 02:24:41.
In reply to Re: sidebands posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017

Now much cleaner -

0222 -4 -1.6 0.475654 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453

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Re: sidebands
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 02:29:20.
In reply to Re: sidebands posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017

And now right on the fringe again (still 1453Hz center)-

0226 -0 -1.7 0.475654 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453

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Re: sidebands
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017 at 02:33:40.
In reply to Re: sidebands posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017

And now with 120Hz spurs again -

0230 5 -1.6 0.475654 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453
0230 -28 -1.6 0.475774 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 453

You're not responding, so I'm going to do other things now.

Chuck

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Re: 630M QRSS Tonight?
Posted by Sal,K1RGO on December 11, 2017 at 01:29:23.
In reply to 630M QRSS Tonight? posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 10, 2017

I was running k1rgo/b on 476.5 qrss4 earlier this evening. I run it off/on evenings to around 10 or 11 pm est.
later........... Sal

 

Re: 630M QRSS Tonight?
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 11, 2017 at 01:59:58.
In reply to Re: 630M QRSS Tonight? posted by Sal,K1RGO on December 11, 2017

Looking for you now, Sal.
476.5Khz/QRSS
73, Chuck

 

Brief HiFER listening
Posted by Ed Holland on December 11, 2017 at 03:09:31.

There was a brief opportunity to listen yesterday, around 3 pm in the afternoon (PST).

At the watering hole, I heard USC, and the mystery carrier reported elsewhere at 13,555.710-ish. It was loud enough to hear plainly.

further up the band, GNK showed on spectrogram, but PCO was the real star, with several loud and clear audible IDs between fades.

 

Monitoring QRSS 2200M Now~ Tonight
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 11, 2017 at 16:54:34.

I have put one of my SDRPlay receivers on 137.000Khz/USB, passing audio from 100 to 900Hz, so watching the top of the band for activity with HD-SDR. Lots of QRM lower in the band, but above 137khz looks workable -- now that I've chased down as much of the switching PSs and other noise as I can ;P

Within the 137.10~137.80Khz segment, I have ARGO looking at 137.695 through 137.705 Khz QRSS30, and am taking a grab each 30 minutes. Will keep watch here through tonight - with the exception of 0025~0055Z when I have a net that will interfere - if anyone wants to try for copy here in Eastern Carolina (FM06).
Can QSY by request here on the board - will keep an eye on it tonight also.

I see a strong and steady carrier at 137,695.32~ but other than that, both HD-SDR and ARGO show nothing but noise at present.

Will post grabs of anything interesting.
Hope to see some activity this evening...

73, Chuck

 

HiFer beacon info
Posted by David Joseph on December 11, 2017 at 20:25:46.

Would like to list my HiFer beacon soon to be up. Will update when on. ID: AMX FREQ: TBA ANTENNA: END FED WIRE QSL INFO: W1AMX, Harrison, ME 04040

 

Re: HiFer beacon info
Posted by Bill, K4JYS on December 11, 2017 at 20:55:48.
In reply to HiFer beacon info posted by David Joseph on December 11, 2017

Dave....CW?
Also, what is the xmtr?
de Bill K4JYS in NC

 

Re: Monitoring QRSS 2200M Now~ Tonight
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 11, 2017 at 21:03:47.
In reply to Monitoring QRSS 2200M Now~ Tonight posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 11, 2017

Looks like someone's trying to rise above the noise - 137.702~85x
See attached.

73, Chuck

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Lowfer SIW back running as intended
Posted by Garry, K3SIW on December 11, 2017 at 21:06:31.

It took awhile to recover from the damage of a 3.3 V regulator deciding to put out 12 Vdc. Got a new synthesizer kit from Hans plus a new TCXO to drive it at 27 MHz and installed them Saturday. The schedule calls for QRSS30/60 at 185.2993 kHz on SA and SU with switch to 185.185 kHz WSPR15, QRSS25, Opera32 on MO around 1800Z. Apparently that went okay because I'm copying the signal now on 185.185 kHz and just got an opera32 decode. Hopefully things will keep working because it's getting awfully cold for outside repairs, hi.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

 

Re: Lowfer SIW back running as intended
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 11, 2017 at 22:22:16.
In reply to Lowfer SIW back running as intended posted by Garry, K3SIW on December 11, 2017

I'm going to take a spin up and see if I can copy your QRSS, Gary.

73, Chuck

 

side bands
Posted by WA4SZE /wspr on December 12, 2017 at 00:54:04.

I am running WSPR on 630 meters. I am trying to get rid of 60 hz sidebands on my wspr signal so i am trying a choke fed power supply it seem ok but the proof is on air

 

Re: Monitoring QRSS 2200M Now~ Tonight
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 12, 2017 at 02:46:25.
In reply to Re: Monitoring QRSS 2200M Now~ Tonight posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 11, 2017

Two possibles, even though the QRN is strong here tonight -
137,702.9~
137,699.4~

See attached.

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Just in time for Christmas
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 12, 2017 at 03:33:06.

Came across this and thought I'd share, although it's not exactly on topic -

BitX released a "general coverage" 3~30Mhz transceiver.
All the HF bands, SSB and CW (built in keyer, too), 10 watts output <=10Mhz / 7 watts up to 21Mhz / ~2w on 28Mhz -- pair of IRF510 finals

Uses a "Raduino" controller board with Si5351 synthesizer. Software for the Raduino is open source, so you can hack away if you wish (or just keep the factory installed version)

Comes complete, minus enclosure and speaker -- $109
Stocking stuffer? ;P

See here: www.hfsignals.com/index.php/ubitx/

Cheers, Chuck

 

Re: Just in time for Christmas
Posted by Finman on December 12, 2017 at 18:13:54.
In reply to Just in time for Christmas posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 12, 2017

Interesting... it's "general coverage" but no mention of AM mode which of course is a must have for any general coverage receiver.

 

Web SDRs
Posted by ed holland on December 12, 2017 at 22:07:05.

I'm sure the audience here is aware, but I have found a handful of SDRs online that allow coverage of the HiFER band over at websdr.org

 

Re: side bands
Posted by Bill AA2UK on December 13, 2017 at 00:52:31.
In reply to side bands posted by WA4SZE /wspr on December 12, 2017

David,
I think you are putting for a good faith effort to clean up your 630
meter WSPR transmitter. I've been following all the back and forth and am glad to see you asking for reports on ON4KST.
I can see an improvement but I don't have a high quality system set up for 630 yet.
I hope other's will give you honest timely reports...
73, AA2UK
Bill

 

Re: side bands
Posted by David Frantz on December 13, 2017 at 15:39:54.
In reply to Re: side bands posted by Bill AA2UK on December 13, 2017

Thank you for your reply. I had no idea that WSPR is so sensitive to 60 hz but now it make sense. I was using a 99 cent power supply from goodwill that must have has a slight ripple.The power supply is rated 4 amps at 12 vdc not bad for 99 Cents. I went to choke feed hoping it would stop the side bands.So far so good!!! I love experimenting and building from scratch.

 

Re: side bands
Posted by Bill AA2UK on December 13, 2017 at 16:26:27.
In reply to Re: side bands posted by David Frantz on December 13, 2017

David, why not get on the air and make some contacts? Your antenna would allow you to work many stations. I see more stations getting active on 630 meters I think the band is lending itself to many of the VHF and up crowd.
73, Bill
AA2UK

 

Monday Afternoon: WM, SIW
Posted by John Davis on December 13, 2017 at 19:09:43.

Sorry to have not had a chance to post before now, but it's been a busy week. A fortuitous combination of good weather and doctor visit changes enabled me to go to the farm for a couple of hours Monday afternoon. Both LowFER attempts yielded some surprises, as I had not yet seen Garry's post about SIW before leaving, nor Mike's email about a specially requested change for testing.

Thus, I found WM 1 Hz higher than usual, and in FSK-only. He returned it to normal later. Meanwhile...

SIW has returned to operation on its alternate frequency of 185.185, but in the daytime that turns out to be a rather noisy spot here in SE Kansas nowadays. Alas, it may be quite a while before I have a chance to evaluate it at night.

John

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Re: Monday Afternoon: WM, SIW
Posted by Mike N8OOU on December 14, 2017 at 02:16:45.
In reply to Monday Afternoon: WM, SIW posted by John Davis on December 13, 2017

John,

Thanks for this report. It fills the map rose with reports from all four directions. I think Mother Nature had a hand in making good conditions on Sunday and Monday for propagation. The reports I received on Monday indicate the WM Lowfer daytime coverage to be good over a 200 to 400 Mile radius from my location.

Thanks for taking the time for listening.

Mike 73

 

Re: side bands
Posted by Bill AA2UK on December 14, 2017 at 14:03:03.
In reply to Re: side bands posted by Bill AA2UK on December 13, 2017

David, I saw the 60hz sidebands on your WSPR above and below shortly after posting here. Doesn't look like the power supply choke worked. It's not RX overload here, I switched in attenuation and while I didn't get decodes all the time, the side bands were visible on my display. Are you using a the U3S stand alone or with an amplifier?
Have you tried running the unit on battery power? I'm just trying to address the WSPR sideband issue.
Tnx, Bill
AA2UK
T

 

Re: side bands
Posted by Bill AA2UK on December 14, 2017 at 22:59:40.
In reply to Re: side bands posted by David Frantz on December 13, 2017

David, I will help if you'd like? My QRZ e-mail is valid contact me and we can take it from there.
Tnx, Bill
AA2UK

 

RE: LOWfer NET Saturday 3927 Khz 0800 California time
Posted by Jerry Parker on December 15, 2017 at 16:05:08.

Hi everyone.

Reminder LOWfer NET Saturday 3927 Khz 0800 California time

Please join us if you can

Jerry
WA6OWR

 

2200m qrss
Posted by Sal, K1RGO on December 16, 2017 at 18:13:52.

Today @11:30 local, 1630 utc I copied K2ORS on 137.65 kHz, qrss 10, -47 dB on spectran.
I copied nothing on 1750 meters.
later..
Sal

 

ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by Bob WA1EDJ on December 17, 2017 at 15:01:58.

I've built a QRP Labs receiver module. It is your pretty standard SDR like a SoftRock with I/Q outputs.
It seems to perform well with HDSDR. It also has the option for a plugin polyphase module to receive USB or LSB only.

I want to use it with ARGO for a dedicated HiFer RX.

Can ARGO work with an SDR I/Q RX? I've researched and it appears it has been used with SDR dongles. I have only used ARGO with a normal USB/LSB RX. If it does work, does it want I or Q? I have tried the QRP Labs RX with the polyphase module but it seem to work better as an I/Q SDR with SDR software. Maybe the answer is out there and I missed it.

Advice welcome.

I do have a U3S I'm just finishing. I plan to try it on 22M WSPR. Don't know who will be out there listening but WSPR seems like a good fit for 22M.

TNX
Bob WA1EDJ Monroe, GA

 

Re: ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by John Davis on December 17, 2017 at 23:05:01.
In reply to ARGO with SDR's? posted by Bob WA1EDJ on December 17, 2017

Hi Bob. This is the dilemma with most software dependent receivers. (I reserve the term "software defined radio" for those whose DSP capability is self contained but can be reconfigured by communication with the outside world, not those totally dependent on an external computer to yield a usable output.) Their I and Q outputs each include frequencies both above and below the local oscillator frequency aliased together into the audio spectrum...no problem for a decent sound card and suitable algorithms to sort out their phase difference into USB or LSB with lots of unwanted sideband rejection, but if you directly use either I or Q into Argo (which is not able to accommodate I-Q together), you'll get wanted and unwanted signals overlaid.

That's why the polyphase network is available for the QRP Labs kit. It may not be able to perform unwanted sideband rejection as perfectly as a precise mathematical algorithm, but it does avoid the need for two soundcards.

That is your other option, by the way: a computer with two soundcards, one for the I and Q inputs that your SDR software uses (or else a receiver with digitized I and Q outputs that your software package recognizes as if it were a soundcard), and one that outputs a digital stream for Argo to use, plus a software connection between the two. That last part is something I'm not familiar with, but I believe others here are.

By the way, if you get into monitoring WSPR at 22 m, your QRP Labs receiver will probably be a fine performer because the standard WSPR 2.1 software supports I-Q audio inputs (although I don't think WSPR-X does at this time).

John

 

Re: ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by John, W1TAG on December 18, 2017 at 01:35:38.
In reply to ARGO with SDR's? posted by Bob WA1EDJ on December 17, 2017

Bob,

As John Davis explained, Argo cannot handle the I and Q inputs. But, Spectrum Laboratory certainly can, though at the expense of a lot of cranial capacity to get it set up! You can null the opposite sideband within the program, and then use any mode supported by Spec, including QRSS, of course.

John, W1TAG

 

SDR Dongle Drift
Posted by Frank Lotito on December 18, 2017 at 02:47:46.

Can anyone comment on SDR dongle drift? My dongles leave something to be desired w.r.t. drift starting from a cold start-up. I have not kept them on long enough to see if they settle down "good enough" for 22 Meter 5 WPM beacon reception, yet alone for QRSs beacon reception. My $$$ Radixon WinRADIO "Excalibur" WR-G31DDC is definitely in another class well above the simple dangle from the computer's USB port receiver. 73 Frank K3DZ / WH2XHA

 

Re: SDR Dongle Drift
Posted by John Davis on December 18, 2017 at 06:46:07.
In reply to SDR Dongle Drift posted by Frank Lotito on December 18, 2017

You are definitely right about them not being anywhere in or near the same league as your Excalibur.

Call me prejudiced, perhaps, but I have trouble bringing myself to dignify any dongle with the designation "SDR." Remember what they originated as: cheap software driven downconverters for digital television reception, built to a price point rather than for performance. Frequency stability was not a prime concern, so their L.O./clock driver is generally based on the cheapest available crystal oscillator module. Nor, for most of them, is dynamic range a big concern with such low bit counts that most of their ADCs offer.

Dongle "SDRs" are the dancing dogs of technology...the wonder being not that they do the job well, but that they do it at all. IMO, their only value is as comparatively inexpensive demonstrators for SDR principles, although there are kits out there now that aren't particularly high-dollar either, but provide far more credible performance.

 

Re: ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by Bob WA1EDJ on December 18, 2017 at 13:26:27.
In reply to Re: ARGO with SDR's? posted by John Davis on December 17, 2017

Thanks John!

I did try an experiment where I ran ARGO with a known freq signal and got results. My test sig was 2.6KHz below my SDR LO and low and behold, ARGO showed it at 2600 Hz. So I guess I would have one at +2.6 and -2.6 KHz from LO and that would correspond to I and Q? So which one I see is dependent on weather ARGO is looking at the left or right (I or Q)channel only.

John TAG mentioned using Spectrum Lab which will take I/Q inputs. ARGO is easy Spectrum Lab not so.

I'll play around. That's the joy of this!

TNX for the 22M advice. I was aware that WSPR 2.1 could take I/Q. I will try that.
My main interest in ARGO was for QRSS. If something else can do that, I'd try it.

TNX....Bob...EDJ

 

Re: ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by Mike N8OOU on December 18, 2017 at 15:08:35.
In reply to ARGO with SDR's? posted by Bob WA1EDJ on December 17, 2017

Bob,

Let me first declare that I run Linux as my primary OS, I am not up to speed on the latest -greatest Windows. In linux you can simply re-direct the decoded audio output of your SDR control program (HDSDR maybe) to the audio input of Argo. That capability is delivered as part of the OS. I believe in Windows 7 you must purchase additional software to do that, I think it is called "Virtual Audio Cable".

In your test of inputting the I or Q stream into Argo, I believe you will find your signal at +2.6 on either line. What determines whether it is +2.6 or -2.6 is the phase difference between the two lines. That's the magic that a program like HDSDR performs.

Mike 73

 

Re: ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by John, W1TAG on December 18, 2017 at 16:41:31.
In reply to Re: ARGO with SDR's? posted by Mike N8OOU on December 18, 2017

Mike,

VB Cable (for Windows) is free, and works great for me.

John, W1TAG

 

Re: ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by Mike N8OOU on December 18, 2017 at 17:12:29.
In reply to Re: ARGO with SDR's? posted by John, W1TAG on December 18, 2017

John,

Thanks for the info. I bailed on windows after Win XP. The last I knew it was purchase only for Win 7.

Mike 73.

 

PVC on a quite band
Posted by Bill Hensel on December 20, 2017 at 23:32:01.

Caught some complete IDs of PVC at 2309 Utc out on the West Coast...not a single other beacon heard which happens now and then.

 

Long wave broadcasting in Canada and USA
Posted by Scorpio on December 21, 2017 at 04:11:22.

Hello everyone!This is my first ever post on the LWCA Message Board!

Years ago, I had dxed the long wave band from 150 - 530 kHz when I lived in the northern part of the province of Ontario, Canada - now livimg in eastern Ontario and don't dx as much as i mostly do FM. I've heard many non-directional beacons along with European broadcasts between 150 - 200+ kHz.
I noticed there are mostly NDB's on the LW band so I'm wondering why Canada and the United States and South America never used the LW band for broadcasting like they do in the European countries? They can be used in larger cities like Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Vancouver, New York City, and many others where the medium wave and FM bands that are being increasingly crowded with radio stations!

 

Re: Long wave broadcasting in Canada and USA
Posted by Dave Childs on December 21, 2017 at 06:13:30.
In reply to Long wave broadcasting in Canada and USA posted by Scorpio on December 21, 2017

I'd say the main reason that the LF spectrum was never used for AM broadcasting is due to the high summer time noise levels & the resulting need to high transmitter power required to make themselves heard above it.

 

Re: Long wave broadcasting in Canada and USA
Posted by Frank Lotito on December 21, 2017 at 11:31:06.
In reply to Re: Long wave broadcasting in Canada and USA posted by Dave Childs on December 21, 2017

Ditto - Also, from an environmental and technical point of view, you can't beat the Internet to efficiently and reliably disseminate information, be it video, just audio, text, graphics, etc. AlL sorts of spectrum room available for a whole plethora of "broadcasters!" 73 Frank K3DZ / WH2XHA

 

Re: PVC on a quite band
Posted by ed holland on December 22, 2017 at 19:20:01.
In reply to PVC on a quite band posted by Bill Hensel on December 20, 2017

Thanks for the report Bill,

I hope to get some listening in this weekend.

Ed

 

Re: RE: LOWfer NET Saturday 3927 Khz 0800 California time
Posted by Mel, K6KBE on December 22, 2017 at 20:10:15.
In reply to RE: LOWfer NET Saturday 3927 Khz 0800 California time posted by Jerry Parker on December 15, 2017

Just getting on 630m with new gear and a antenna to go up in Jan with permission of weather. Will check in on
sat. Cheers,

Mel

 

Re: RE: LOWfer NET Saturday 3927 Khz 0800 California time
Posted by Jerry Parker on December 23, 2017 at 01:22:53.
In reply to Re: RE: LOWfer NET Saturday 3927 Khz 0800 California time posted by Mel, K6KBE on December 22, 2017

Look forward to having you.

73's

Jerry

 

LOWfer Net reminder....3927 Khz 0800 Sat California time
Posted by Jerry Parker on December 23, 2017 at 01:25:01.

Hi everyone

Reminder: LOWfer net at 0800 California time Saturday morning

Or listen online at:
WEB SDR KFS
http://69.27.184.62:8901/?tune=3927lsb

click on the autonotch to get rid of hetrodines

Hope to see you there.

73's


Jerry Parker
WA6OWR

 

Re: WSPR for HiFers?
Posted by Bob WA1EDJ on December 23, 2017 at 02:25:49.
In reply to WSPR for HiFers? posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 08, 2017

Chuck,
I intend to try WSPR on 22M at some point. I've just got a few other projects ahead of it. I have the U3S built, just waiting on the enclosure to finish it up. I have the QRP Labs RX module going and intend to use it on 22M as my RX.
I'll let the list know when I'm ready for WSPR TX.

Bob
WA1EDJ Monroe GA

 

Re: WSPR for HiFers?
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 23, 2017 at 23:10:37.
In reply to Re: WSPR for HiFers? posted by Bob WA1EDJ on December 23, 2017

Looking forward to it, Bob.

Merry Christmas to you, and to all.

Chuck

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by joe on December 23, 2017 at 23:52:56.
In reply to 2200m qrss posted by Sal, K1RGO on December 16, 2017

Hi Sal,

Please try 137.777 kHz tonight (23rd).

73 & GL
Joe VO1NA

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Sal, K1RGO on December 24, 2017 at 00:36:14.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by joe on December 23, 2017

I will try tonight Joe,
I have been listening on 477.7 kHz for you also. I am on 630 meters now and run k1rgo/b qrss4 on 476.5 kHz. Mostly jt9 and not much cw but I worked a few cw stations and had a couple of qrss reports.
later..........
Sal

 

Christmas transmission with SAQ radio cancelled
Posted by Mike Terry on December 24, 2017 at 11:32:13.

Source - http://alexander.n.se/christmas-transmission-with-saq-radio-cancelled/?lang=en

The Alexander association
Grimeton SAQ veteran radio friends

During the year maintenance work has been done on some parts of the long-wave antenna. This was e.g. notable during the summer when the SAQ-transmission on Alexanderson day was cancelled. Unfortunately we have to inform you that also the traditional Christmas transmission will be cancelled this year since we haven’t been able to finish the maintenance work as planned. Which sometimes can be the case when maintaining an almost 100 year old longwave station.

We deeply regret this and hope for understanding of the situation and also your continued support for the station. We are doing everything we can to get our “old lady” up in the air again!

Camilla Lugnet, Managing Director
Grimeton World Heritage Foundation

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Joe VO1NA on December 24, 2017 at 21:17:33.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by Sal, K1RGO on December 24, 2017

Thank-you Sal. QRV again tonight. 3 amps to the 100m RL QRSS100 137.777 kHz.
73 MX
Joe

 

Re: Christmas transmission with SAQ radio cancelled
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 25, 2017 at 00:38:26.
In reply to Christmas transmission with SAQ radio cancelled posted by Mike Terry on December 24, 2017

Well, that's unfortunate. Was hoping to catch it this year.

73 and merry Christmas to all!

Chuck

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by K3SIW, Garry on December 25, 2017 at 13:39:10.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by Joe VO1NA on December 24, 2017

Joe, your "HNY MX" came through well here over night. Small capture sent to http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/lowfer/2017-December/046687.html.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

 

Merry Christmas
Posted by John Bruce McCreath on December 25, 2017 at 15:43:28.


Wishing all of my friends on the LWCA Message Board a very Merry Christmas and record DX in 2018!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Joe VO1NA on December 25, 2017 at 17:40:46.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by K3SIW, Garry on December 25, 2017

Hi Gary,
That's an impressive copy. The TX is QRV again tonight.
QRSS100, 137.777 kHz, 500 watts 3 amps to the 100 x 20m RL in GN37.

Thank-you, MX NHY

Joe

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Sal,K1RGO on December 25, 2017 at 23:54:43.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by Joe VO1NA on December 25, 2017

Hi Joe
I had lots of noise and had no copy . I will try again tonight
later......
Sal

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 26, 2017 at 01:57:02.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by Joe VO1NA on December 24, 2017

I just started my RX on 137.777Khz Joe. Lots of noise, but I'll see if I can get some copy.

73 es Merry Christmas,
Chuck

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Joe VO1NA on December 27, 2017 at 01:13:45.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by Chuck, N1KGY on December 26, 2017

Thanks Sal and Chuck,

TX off due to foul WX yesterday and tonight. Will advise when QRV again.

73 and thanks.
Joe

 

Christmas Hifers
Posted by ed holland on December 27, 2017 at 23:43:20.

Had the chance for a little festive listening over the weekend. Christmas Eve proved rather fruitful.

GNK, RF, but no sign of PCO on the high section of the band.

Lower down, Spectrum Lab helped to find WM, MP, USC and NC, possibly also a hint of an SIW.

Meanwhile, on the workbench, the Philco project saw more cabinet and electrical restoration work. This project is almost complete, and just needs minor wiring and final chassis assembly before gentle power up. Jumping forward in time, I found I (think) the issue with the Icom R72 receiver that was causing it to forget clock and memory settings - backup battery holder never properly soldered. Another internet bargain is saved :-)

Cheers

Ed

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by k3siw, Garry on December 28, 2017 at 18:53:30.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by Joe VO1NA on December 27, 2017

Joe, I see from ARRL news that you've been transmitting on 8.2700075 kHz beginning 2100Z. Is that still the case? If so what bit duration are you using?

73, Garry, K3SIW

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Joe VO1NA on December 29, 2017 at 03:09:03.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by k3siw, Garry on December 28, 2017

Hi Gary,

Using 1 minute bits - 544 of them in the VLF EbNaut transmission.
On 137.777 kHz the TX is now (0300 utc) QRV again with QRSS100.
73
Joe

 

Transmitting on 75 KHz
Posted by Ron NI7J-WH2XND on December 30, 2017 at 01:14:43.

Gentlemen we are transmitting a WSPR signal at 75.593 KHz. Power out is 400 watts from a W1VD modified amp. Antenna height is 95 Ft. with 1016 ft. of top loading. EIRP 4.286 watts, total radiated power 1.42 watts. Link to my site with photos.. https://ni7j-wh2xnd.com/ Marconi antenna now has 4 top loading wires not 2 as seen on website. Any and all reports would be appreciated, hope all can join in for some LF fun. Thanks Ron Douglass

 

Reminder: LOWfer net at 0800 California time Saturday morning
Posted by Jerry Parker on December 30, 2017 at 03:32:20.

Reminder: LOWfer net at 0800 California time Saturday morning

Or listen online at:
WEB SDR KFS
http://69.27.184.62:8901/?tune=3927lsb

click on the autonotch to get rid of hetrodines

Hope to see you there.

73's

Jerry
WA6OWR

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Larry K9ZBU on December 30, 2017 at 19:31:43.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by Joe VO1NA on December 29, 2017

Hi Joe,
I received your very strong 137.777 kHz signal here in New York at FN21wr early this morning. Thanks for transmitting the very appropriate message! I have a nice ARGO plot I could send you if you could tell me some way I could get it to you.
73
Larry

 

Re: ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by Larry K9ZBU on December 30, 2017 at 23:12:19.
In reply to Re: ARGO with SDR's? posted by Bob WA1EDJ on December 18, 2017

Hi Bob,
I use ARGO with HDSDR frequently.
1. Install any virtual audio cable software. I use VB-Audio Virtual Cable.
2. Launch HDSDR and click the Soundcard button in lower left or hit F5. Select CABLE Input that should also have the name of your virtual audio cable. Click OK button to close window.
3. Launch ARGO. Click on Setup menu and select "Select Sound Card...". There you should be able to select CABLE Output which has the name of the virtual audio cable software. Click the OK button to close the window.

That should do it. Whatever is sent out of the HDSDR audio output will be input to ARGO and properly displayed. I run HDSDR in USB mode with the Tune value set to a round number frequency below what I want ARGO to cover. It works very nicely. You can also use the same method to simultaneously connect HDSDR to both WSJT-X and ARGO.
Have fun!
73
Larry

 

Re: 2200m qrss
Posted by Joe VO1NA on December 31, 2017 at 00:38:35.
In reply to Re: 2200m qrss posted by Larry K9ZBU on December 30, 2017

Thank-you for the report, Larry. Delighted to hear that the sigs are making it
out west!

Tonight there is a CW beacon on 477.7 kHz that might be of interest.

73 & TNX,
Joe VO1NA

 

Re: ARGO with SDR's?
Posted by BobC on December 31, 2017 at 14:18:27.
In reply to Re: ARGO with SDR's? posted by Larry K9ZBU on December 30, 2017

Thanks Larry!
I will give that a try. I just got my U3S working and I'm on 40M QRSS now.
I'm working my way to 22M and should start some experiments up there soon.

Bob
WA1EDJ

 

Big Giveaway of all my Western Updates from the 80s
Posted by Stephen McGreevy on December 31, 2017 at 16:42:18.
In reply to Reminder: LOWfer net at 0800 California time Saturday morning posted by Jerry Parker on December 30, 2017

Jerry, I didn't mean to be so rude and "anti" sounding last Summer when you offered me to partake in net Saturday on 3927, but I decided earlier in 2017 to go the "Vince Pinto Route" and near totally ***bail outta most radio/technical hobby stuff**, including natural radio. I fondly retain love of DXing and radio but I am cutting it al back by 95% to do other things like study languages and work on a few inventions without much distractions. Secondly, I am moving away from the horrid southern Owens Valley to saner location not attacked by military aircraft of all kinds - I'k tired of living in "Inyostan" County-of-war- Kalifornia. Kalifornia will be toast too, soon. Time to sdplit crazy/kookyTaxifornia for saner pastures far away...

As such, I'm giving away ALL of my LOWFER WESTERN UPDATES in binders with my noites, etc. Mike Mideke and Jim Ericson published back between 1985 and 1992.

Although I have always been loather to post anything to this board because e-address ARE VISIBLE and thus spammable.

As the LWCA has seemingly never adopted a private messaging system not displaying e-mail addresses, I never have posted to here until this morning - the LAST day of a generally crappy year (for a lot of people - go figure...).

As I am in the midst of this big purge (most of my Ham Radio stuff goes next on eBay), if anyone would like printed originals of all the WUs I have (#58 onwards) and other stuff pertaining to lowfer xmting. LF was never workable from this land-locked nasty Owens Valley of Kalifornia, as groundwave cannot get out of the too-rugged terrain, only skywave, but my property is so hammed in by RF-sucking/soaking Tamarisk Trees (nasty dirty bug/vermin-breeding trees - a invasive species I'd like to see eradicated but full of 'em in Keeler/Keel-over, Kalifornia) that suck 90 dB from my LF signal xmtting - 15 watts input gets me less than 10 mW ERP out to the far-field - or maybe 1 mW ERP, so it is quite hopeless to try compared to the glory days of the mid-late 1980s when it was all analogue and people actually LISTENED with their ears live for DX rather than watching yet another computer screen. So alas I find most radio DX stuff in 2018 no-fun. I'm OK with spectrograms and waterfalls but I like listening with my EARS too - live CW - no digital junk, really. Old School there. So Please contact me at my (N6NKS) contact info on QRZ.com etc. etc. and let me know if anyone wishes a big bunch of radio binders from the 80s HEYDEY of lowfering when we all were trying for Trans-continental DX and messaging (pre-internet) and I still hole the DX record for a legal Part-15 lowfer - Mike's Z2 as heard in Kauai, Hawaii Janury 1986 (on my site too) Z2 was Q-FIVE! 10 watt coastal NDBs at the time were huge in Hawaii. A lotta fun, but time passes.

OK time to zap this out - good luck to your all - we're all gonna need it in the ongoingUS-cultural-wars/factionalization of 2018... Steve McGreevy

 

Re: Big Giveaway of all my Western Updates from the 80s
Posted by Rick on December 31, 2017 at 17:46:33.
In reply to Big Giveaway of all my Western Updates from the 80s posted by Stephen McGreevy on December 31, 2017

Steve, if you still have the Western Updates and Lowdown’s, I’ll take them.. Email is remler_two at juno dot com.

Thanks!

 

Re: Big Giveaway of all my Western Updates from the 80s
Posted by Rick on December 31, 2017 at 17:58:23.
In reply to Re: Big Giveaway of all my Western Updates from the 80s posted by Rick on December 31, 2017

I also sent an email to your QRZ address.

 

to Rick regarding the Western Updates from the 80s
Posted by Stephen McGreevy on December 31, 2017 at 18:25:38.
In reply to Re: Big Giveaway of all my Western Updates from the 80s posted by Rick on December 31, 2017

Hi Rick,

I will ck. my e-mail later on this afternoon after I complete some home maint. work here in prep. of beginning selling this QTH in two weeks (Jan. 10th).

Thanks much - I will scan what I need then will be happy to send the batch - if U could cover postage then it would be super...

Steve McGreevy N6NKS

 

Hifer beacon
Posted by jim vm on December 31, 2017 at 21:20:38.

I fired up my old Hifer beacon today. Frequency is aprox. 13.565.950 MHz.
ID is ESA (DA3ID). Antenna is 17 foot vertical with 2 ground plane wires.

73 jim vm


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